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What good are philosophers today?
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Just kidding, man. I'll stop. Promise...
If you talk about the physical properties of the universe, such as gravity, then you are talking about physics, yes. I don't think that's enough to give you the title of "physicist", though...
If you talk about the physical properties of the universe, such as gravity, then you are talking about physics, yes. I don't think that's enough to give you the title of "physicist", though...
S/He was asking you. That what those question marks are for. Like, you know, like, when you said: "...those who talk about the physical universe are simply 'physicists'..."
I know that. That's why I answered!
My thoughts exactly.
You cant just change a definition of a word. The word Philosophy will have the same meaning to me as it did to the ancient Greeks. The creators of the term "philosophy".
Truthseeker create your own damn word if you dont like it.
*SIGH...
Patience, oh God, please give me patience....
Ok.
Here's the definition of philosophy from wikipedia:
"Philosophy is the discipline concerned with questions of how one should live (ethics); what sorts of things exist and what are their essential natures (metaphysics); what counts as genuine knowledge (epistemology); and what are the correct principles of reasoning (logic).[1]"
Do you see physics here? No. So, please, get your shit together.
Oh, and please, I would like to see a brilliant contemporary philosopher. I'm waiting...
Patience, oh God, please give me patience....
Ok.
Here's the definition of philosophy from wikipedia:
"Philosophy is the discipline concerned with questions of how one should live (ethics); what sorts of things exist and what are their essential natures (metaphysics); what counts as genuine knowledge (epistemology); and what are the correct principles of reasoning (logic).[1]"
Do you see physics here? No. So, please, get your shit together.
Oh, and please, I would like to see a brilliant contemporary philosopher. I'm waiting...
This reminds me of an old greek philosopher who used to go around town looking for a real man....
The general misconception is that early philosophers only studied philosophy, which is not entirely true, at least not for the famous and respected ones. Those philosophers were also avid mathematicians, politicians, and scientists, philosophy was just something they tackled on the side.
Yes, precisely. I think one of the reasons they could do that is because all those subjects were so... NEW! You know what I mean? Today, all those subjects are so incredibly in depth that one cannot easily handle all them at the same time...
And to quote further from the SAME article:
My italics.
Get your shit together indeed...
Other definitions (that do cover physics):
Hello Oli,
So how what you posted disproves what I said?
The definition may be controvertial, but the definition I presented was obviously the generally accepted one (given that it was right at the start of the article... ).
Besides, we are talking about the original definition here, which I stated correctly.
So how what you posted disproves what I said?
The definition may be controvertial, but the definition I presented was obviously the generally accepted one (given that it was right at the start of the article...
).Besides, we are talking about the original definition here, which I stated correctly.
It "disproves it" because the very definition of philosophy is in dispute: therefore, until defined correctly, it is not logical to say what it does or does not include.
Or just the one accepted by the guy who wrote the article: google for - philosophy definition -and see how many you get.The definition may be controvertial, but the definition I presented was obviously the generally accepted one (given that it was right at the start of the article...
The "original definition"? - "philosophy" is from the Greek and means "love of knowledge" - probably more nearly "original" than any other definition.
How about "Philosophy and Physics"?
http://www.amazon.com/Physics-Philosophy-Revolution-Modern-Science/dp/1573926949
A book by Heisenberg, someone who should know...
Philosophy can include physics, but not all physics includes philosophy.
Try looking at a book.
20 posts ago, #68, I quoted Websters New International, as Book dictionaries tend to be more in-depth than computer ones, And also more scholarly.
You could have gone to wikopiedia and changed it to suit your needs.
Hello Oli,
So how what you posted disproves what I said?
The definition may be controvertial, but the definition I presented was obviously the generally accepted one (given that it was right at the start of the article...
Besides, we are talking about the original definition here, which I stated correctly.
You stated it wrong. I said the original definition along time ago in this thread "the love of wisdom".
Aristotle was a philosopher who studied almost a little of everything.
No.
You gave a definition.
One of many.
One of many disputed definitions.
In fact when I took philosophy in VI Form College they didn't even bother giving a definition.
The whole of philosophy is not physics, but physics can be included in philosophy.
Without Philosophy there would be no Physics.
Do you not see what's going on here?