UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

What I actually said:

"It's a matter of trusting the eyewitness's firsthand experience over the vague and adhoc possibility of some generic optical illusion or misperception."

 

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And I sumed you up in Ever the optimist

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"I trust no one, not even myself." - Joseph Stalin

 

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I think that's reasonable if we interpret "trust" not as total credulity, but as assuming some significant possibility that the eyewitness account is reasonably accurate. That doesn't exclude the possibility of error, but it suggests that error mustn't just be speculatively assumed because the eyewitness account might conceivably be of something that an individual is reluctant to accept.

 

Metallic-looking orb captured on video over city of Mosul Iraq by a U.S. Spy plane in April 2016. An image of the video was declassified and released to the Daily Mail by Jeremy Corbell. Hey! Maybe it's the planet Venus!

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11666549/Classified-spy-plane-video-UFO-Iraq.html

"The briefing video describes it as a 'short clip of an unidentified flying orb that appears to have a metallic shine on its surface', and shows the strange object flying over the city of Mosul in northern Iraq with the background of the shot showing the streets below.

It is the first publicly revealed image from the US government's ongoing UFO investigation showing an unidentified craft over a conflict zone.

A UFO flying around where the US military is operating has sparked security and safety concerns at the Department of Defense, with military officials worried it could endanger pilots and ground troops...

"...In a four-second video titled 'Mosul Orb' included in the briefing, the UFO appears for one second as it flies alongside the MC-12 spy plane.

Intriguingly, the object appears to have no apparent flight surfaces like wings, or discernible propulsion.

An intelligence source with operational knowledge of the footage said it was filmed using 'FMV [full motion video] by DGS-1' – implying that the plane sensors captured infra-red and other data when it filmed the UFO.

DailyMail.com understands that officials who assembled the briefing video believe the 'orb' was under intelligent control...."

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Yeah..it's the "motivated reasoning" that perception is just so unreliable therefore the eyewitness must be wrong in what he thinks he saw. It just seems too ad hoc and contrived, a ploy or excuse to dismiss the account entirely or else to cherry pick it to support the alternative interpretation they want to propose.

 

While these may not be space aliens, I’m starting to feel that there are a little too many unsolved UFO “mysteries” that could be security threats for the US, or any other country dealing with sightings like this. I think the Pentagon stated as much when the tic tac video came to light.

I’m not afraid, but there seem to be unsolved cases springing up more often, and it’s unnerving.

 

Assuming that it isn't some kind of camera artifact, I wonder how big it is and how close to the aircraft it was. Was it maneuvering to fly alongside the MC-12 aircraft?

And I wonder whether it was detected by aircrew visually or whether it registered on any other detection instruments. In other words, is this photograph (which I assume is a screenshot from a video) all there is, or was it detected by multiple modes of observation?

I would have more confidence that something was really there if it was detected in more than one reasonably independent way.

It's swamp-gas MR! What's the matter with you??

 

I don't think it's a camera artifact as it was captured on video and , as per the article, on infrared as well. The lighting and shading of it also matches up with the objects on the ground. That supports the probability that is was a physical 3D object that was actually there. I wish we could see the video so we can see how it was moving. Flying alongside the plane would rule out a balloon: "In a four-second video titled 'Mosul Orb' included in the briefing, the UFO appears for one second as it flies alongside the MC-12 spy plane."

 

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As you seem to imply, a single photo, as currently released, is not much to go on, especially when you can't even infer height, speed, capabilities etc.
As to what this may be... it looks mundane. Internet balloon (Loon?)
perhaps. It just doesn't look interesting enough to seem non-mundane.

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Seriously, though, a single still image is not really going to answer anything. Let's see the full, lengthy, 4-second video and see what that offers.

 

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Comments by Jeremy Corbell on the Mosul orb. This is a big deal!

 

Mick West suggests it is either a mylar balloon or a water droplet. Meh...A children's balloon let loose in an Iraqi combat zone? A water droplet on the lens that only appears in one frame? Bollocks Mick!

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/mosul-sphere.12850/
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...eives-350-new-reports-ufo-sightings-rcna65631

Following demands from Congress, the top intelligence agency released its first report on UFOs in 2021, which looked at 144 reported cases. Officials found no evidence that the reported sightings indicated signs of extraterrestrial life or new breakthrough aircraft or weapons by foreign adversaries.

Although the report cited no evidence that UFO sightings could be linked to foreign adversaries, government agencies “will continue to investigate any evidence of possible foreign government involvement in UAP events."

Well, 'no evidence' doesn't mean that these cases are closed. I find it strange though, how so many people are mistaking weather balloons for something more advanced. Hopefully, there will be definitive answers someday, but I wonder if the government would share its findings with the general public, if it was determined that some of these UFO's are/were being operated by foreign governments. It would likely cause widespread panic, but I believe we have a ''right'' to know.

 

The quoted Daily Mail article describes additional encounters with metallic orbs included in the ODNI (Office of Director of National Intelligence) report:

"The ODNI published a second report this month, which said it has analyzed 510 cases up to August 30, 2022.

In October last year DailyMail.com revealed information from the classified version of this report sent to Congress.

One source who had seen the report described dozens of videos on classified servers showing metallic-looking orbs captured by US spy planes or drones in the Middle East – similar to the image released today.

'These drones operate 20-25,000 feet up in the air and they're flying around. We're keeping an eye on bad guys all over the world,' the source said.

'An operator will be zoomed in looking at a town in Syria. And all of a sudden, a little orb will go flying through the viewfinder.

'The operator's like, ''What the hell?'' And so he starts focusing on it and he just watches the orb for a while. We might get it for 30 seconds, we might watch it for 10 minutes. And then it will do something remarkable, like suddenly bolt off the screen.'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11666549/Classified-spy-plane-video-UFO-Iraq.html