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Have seen no mention on MSM I peruse. The level of ass kissing sycophancy and groveling 47 receives is often jawdropping. Marina Hyde in The Guardian was commenting sharply on how even foreign officials (Starmer was exampled re 47 asking some eligibility decision reversed so he could host the 2028 Open at Turdberry) so easily kneel to his orangeness.
Yeah, that whole Turdberry issue is ridiculous. It's a blatant violation of the emoluments clause, but then the US media seem to have no backbone to even call out any of such breaches. He supposedly makes his Secret Service stay at his hotels, and then charges them c.300% more than the authorised government "per diem" . He is supposedly looking for Vietnam to fast-track approval of his Trump resort in the country as part of the negotiation on tariffs.
So this Turdberry thing is just another example of self-enrichment, albeit a far less subtle one. Starmer has pushed the matter to the R&A, which it technically is, but I have no doubt he is pressuring them to let it happen.
 
"Raise your hand if you do not think children with cancer who are American citizens should be deported...."

It's all about an amendment that the Democrats are trying to introduce to a bill regarding deportation, that would stop US citizens from being detained and/or deported by ICE. As you can see, it's a relatively simple question/request.
All the Democrats raised their hands.
None of the Republicans did.
Between this and The Rapist in Chief saying “I don’t know. I’m not, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know", in response to being queried as to whether he has an obligation to uphold the constitution and afford people due process, it seems that the Democrats have an opportunity to prove that they are not also a bunch of little Eichmanns, along with every single one of their Republican cohorts. This could mean a whole lot of things, but I think they've got a duty to remind their constituents that when you are being disappeared by violent thugs, without due process, to foreign gulags and concentration camps for which "the only way out is in a coffin", it is not only your right to resist in any manner possible, but it is also a solid tactical decision to resist in any manner possible, considering the outcomes either way.

Will they do this? Of course they won't, they'll just continue to write "strongly worded letter(s)" and carry on with their privileged performative gestures at the safest remove imaginable.
 
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... when you are being disappeared by violent thugs, without due process, to foreign gulags and concentration camps for which "the only way out is in a coffin", it is not only your right to resist in any manner possible, but it is also a solid tactical decision to resist in any manner possible, considering the outcomes either way.
In fact, considering that--according to their specious lies--they are only disappearing violent criminals, how has this not happened yet? You'd think that some of these murderous thugs--the ones being disappeared, that is, not the ones doing the disappearing--would have weapons and be up for a fight, no?
 
Woke up this morning to the wonderful news that Trump has authorised tariffs on the movie industry!! Bonkers.
Some notable US movies that were filmed in foreign lands:

Avengers: Endgame
Most of the Star Wars movies
Matrix 1
The Lord of the Rings
Pretty much all the Mission: Impossible movies
Beauty and the Beast
Jurassic World: Foreign Kingdom
Most James Bond movies
Titanic
Dark Knight Rises
Da Vinci Code
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Fast and Furious 6
Gladiator
Bourne Identity
Inception

So look for a future without such movies (or dramatically different versions of them.) I wonder if that future will be a successful one for US movie studios?
 
Between this and The Rapist in Chief saying “I don’t know. I’m not, I’m not a lawyer. I don’t know", in response to being queried as to whether he has an obligation to uphold the constitution and afford people due process, it seems that the Democrats have an opportunity to prove that they are not also a bunch of little Eichmanns, along with every single one of their Republican cohorts. This could mean a whole lot of things, but I think they've got a duty to remind their constituents that when you are being disappeared by violent thugs, without due process, to foreign gulags and concentration camps for which "the only way out is in a coffin", it is not only your right to resist in any manner possible, but it is also a solid tactical decision to resist in any manner possible, considering the outcomes either way.

Will they do this? Of course they won't, they'll just continue to write "strongly worded letter(s)" and carry on with their privileged performative gestures at the safest remove imaginable.
Didn’t the guy swear a fucking oath to uphold the constitution, when sworn in as president?
 
Didn’t the guy swear a fucking oath to uphold the constitution, when sworn in as president?
He also described the "Declaration of Independence" a "declaration of unity and love and respect". It's hard not to be impressed by his astounding ignorance. In his 70-odd years, surely there is at least one thing that he actually knows something about? Golf, maybe? I don't know though, I'd venture he's not even versed in all the rules.

How does a person, of at least average intelligence, get to be this way? "I love the smell of agent orange in the morning." He maintains that that is what Robert Duvall said in Apocalypse Now, and that's easily in the top 5 or 10 top quoted movie lines of all time. It's just bizarre.
 
Some notable US movies that were filmed in foreign lands:
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So look for a future without such movies (or dramatically different versions of them.) I wonder if that future will be a successful one for US movie studios?
No-one is yet sure how it will work, what will it target, or even if it's possible. The aim seems to be to counter the tax-breaks (and other incentives?) that other countries give to have the film made there, so the answer would be for the US to give similar tax-breaks, you'd have thought. Certainly that's what Jon Voight is pushing him for (Voight, along with Stallone and Mel Gibson being his "special ambassadors for Hollywood").

I just can't see how it will work for US-produced films made in foreign countries. At what point, and on what basis, will the 100% tariff be applied? If a studio spends $1m in Australia as part of a movie that costs $5m in total, do they pay $1m, or $5m? What if they never release the film???

If it is just targetting foreign-made films - i.e. a Bollywood film, or something by the BBC - then the US companies effectively buy that for consumption in the US. I can see that having to pay a tariff on those would be relatively easy. So Netflix buy the rights to show a BBC film for $1m, and so have to pay an additional $1m in tariffs to the US government. This would certainly impact foreign studios, as their content would be consumed less in the US. Presumably. So maybe Netflix cuts back on such purchases.

The thing is, the industry needs things to be cheaper in the US for production to move/stay there, and this makes things more expensive for them. So a $200m-budget movie now becomes $300m due to the higher costs of working in the US. Or if they have to stick in the $200m budget then they cut down on their vision / scope / production values etc.

Furthermore, the US movie industry is by far a net-benefit to the US. They have a vastly superior trading relationship with all other markets, exporting far more than they import. Trump is really just ruining a(nother) good thing.

Next he'll be putting tariffs on foreign holidays: "Our tourist industry is suffering, and it's therefore a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE! So if you want to travel abroad, and spend money abroad, you must pay 100% extra to the US government!" Or something like that.

Personally I think this might be just non-serious story that is being put out to try to hide some other shenanigans that MAGA are perpetrating.
 
Oklahoma, the state where you want to raise your children, to be brainwashed. They are 49th in Education and the Superintendent just passed the new curriculum for high school students this fall that will include social studies of 2020 election fraud.
 
Didn’t the guy swear a fucking oath to uphold the constitution, when sworn in as president?

And?

That's not why people voted for him.

Don't pretend that oath means anything to the bigoted trash who elected him.

Just remember, Exchemist, the American equivalent of you is why he is president.

Anti-trans, anti-vax, misogyny, racism, that's why. These things were more important to a voter here, and a voter there there, until they all added up to a majority. Can't call a trans girl a man in a dress, so they vote for Trump to hire Musk and Lutnick, &c., in order to stick it to the elitists.

As I said before↗, every cycle. Every election cycle, there's always a reason: Homosexuals, uppity women, scary black people, transgender, non-Christians, nonwhite migrants.

So, what I would really hope people understand, what I direly hope people are capable of learning, is that these little hatreds come with a cost. There's nothing to be done about the past, as such, or the immediate present moment it leads to, but looking forward, we can certainly make different choices about the future.

Meanwhile, it's not so much a matter of shutting your mouths, but the people who sympathize with right-wing bigotry need to decide what their hatred is worth, because every time they complain about Donald Trump, they're also complaining about what they traded away in order to take a swing at the man in the dress, the uppity Negro, and bitches, man, I mean, c'mon, bitches, amiright?

And no matter how much these people whine for their own selves, it's always fallacious. It's one thing if the white supremacist isn't a theocrat, or the misogynist supports gay marriage, but when you add up the anti-trans, the anti-vax, the creationists, the masculinists, and the while they may not want to be seen as similar to one another, they are all unified in their rejection of liberalism, and, when added to the supremacist, conspiracist conservative base, can add up to a majority. And in American history, one of the most common values is that these people's behavior is always, always, always someone else's fault: The man in a dress, the uppity Negro, women who say no to sexual harassment, and so on.

It's a filthy history, and no wonder that the people who seek to benefit from it wouldn't want to be associated with it.

But you ask that question about the oath, for instance, as if it means anything.

It doesn't mean anything to those voters. The oath means nothing to conservatives. Like anything else, it's just a sales pitch, and, caveat emptor, more fool the fool foolish enough to be fooled. And there is a reason why these hatreds gather together.

"Didn’t the guy swear a fucking oath to uphold the constitution," you ask, as if that question means anything.

Of course he did, and if you think that oath means anything to him or his supporters, ¿why?

That's not what they voted for.

And that's just the kind of people they are: Devoted supremacists, an assembly of bigots.

So every time they complain about what they traded away, it seems reasonable to ask if they think the trade was worth it.

And that goes for their nonunion, overseas equivalent, too.
 
No-one is yet sure how it will work, what will it target, or even if it's possible.
Well, as always, trying to figure out WTF Trump is talking about is a bit of a challenge, but what he's said so far is:

"The Movie Industry in America is DYING a very fast death. Other Countries are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States. Hollywood, and many other areas within the U.S.A., are being devastated. This is a concerted effort by other Nations and, therefore, a National Security threat. It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda! Therefore, I am authorizing the Department of Commerce, and the United States Trade Representative, to immediately begin the process of instituting a 100% Tariff on any and all Movies coming into our Country that are produced in Foreign Lands. WE WANT MOVIES MADE IN AMERICA, AGAIN!"

Currently other countries are indeed offering incentives to have US film producers shoot scenes in their countries, and they are taking them up on it (i.e. the list I posted.) If Trump's goal is to keep all that money in the US - which seems to be his goal in other areas - then it is likely he will apply tariffs to any shooting done outside the US.

If a studio spends $1m in Australia as part of a movie that costs $5m in total, do they pay $1m, or $5m?

Right. Or is it net proceeds? Does the government get 20% of the net in the case above?
The thing is, the industry needs things to be cheaper in the US for production to move/stay there, and this makes things more expensive for them. So a $200m-budget movie now becomes $300m due to the higher costs of working in the US.

Or they simply start eliminating live shoots, and do everything on green screen with stock footage. (Or just replace actors with CGI altogether.) That would have a pretty devastating effect on the US economy, as all that money goes away.
 
And?

That's not why people voted for him.

Don't pretend that oath means anything to the bigoted trash who elected him.

Just remember, Exchemist, the American equivalent of you is why he is president.

Anti-trans, anti-vax, misogyny, racism, that's why. These things were more important to a voter here, and a voter there there, until they all added up to a majority. Can't call a trans girl a man in a dress, so they vote for Trump to hire Musk and Lutnick, &c., in order to stick it to the elitists.

As I said before↗, every cycle. Every election cycle, there's always a reason: Homosexuals, uppity women, scary black people, transgender, non-Christians, nonwhite migrants.

So, what I would really hope people understand, what I direly hope people are capable of learning, is that these little hatreds come with a cost. There's nothing to be done about the past, as such, or the immediate present moment it leads to, but looking forward, we can certainly make different choices about the future.

Meanwhile, it's not so much a matter of shutting your mouths, but the people who sympathize with right-wing bigotry need to decide what their hatred is worth, because every time they complain about Donald Trump, they're also complaining about what they traded away in order to take a swing at the man in the dress, the uppity Negro, and bitches, man, I mean, c'mon, bitches, amiright?

And no matter how much these people whine for their own selves, it's always fallacious. It's one thing if the white supremacist isn't a theocrat, or the misogynist supports gay marriage, but when you add up the anti-trans, the anti-vax, the creationists, the masculinists, and the while they may not want to be seen as similar to one another, they are all unified in their rejection of liberalism, and, when added to the supremacist, conspiracist conservative base, can add up to a majority. And in American history, one of the most common values is that these people's behavior is always, always, always someone else's fault: The man in a dress, the uppity Negro, women who say no to sexual harassment, and so on.

It's a filthy history, and no wonder that the people who seek to benefit from it wouldn't want to be associated with it.

But you ask that question about the oath, for instance, as if it means anything.

It doesn't mean anything to those voters. The oath means nothing to conservatives. Like anything else, it's just a sales pitch, and, caveat emptor, more fool the fool foolish enough to be fooled. And there is a reason why these hatreds gather together.

"Didn’t the guy swear a fucking oath to uphold the constitution," you ask, as if that question means anything.

Of course he did, and if you think that oath means anything to him or his supporters, ¿why?

That's not what they voted for.

And that's just the kind of people they are: Devoted supremacists, an assembly of bigots.

So every time they complain about what they traded away, it seems reasonable to ask if they think the trade was worth it.

And that goes for their nonunion, overseas equivalent, too.
A halfway decent interviewer would have jumped on that to ask him directly if he remembered swearing it. American interviewers are far too respectful.
 
It doesn't mean anything to those voters. The oath means nothing to conservatives. Like anything else, it's just a sales pitch, and, caveat emptor, more fool the fool foolish enough to be fooled. And there is a reason why these hatreds gather together.
Some years ago, someone--iceaura, iirc--posted about a neighbor who had used a shotgun to remove some heavy branches that had fallen upon power lines after a storm. I read this and thought, well, that's kinda weird, but also a rather creative and likely effective solution to a potentially very dangerous situation. However, a few other posters read this and thought, Americans and their guns blah blah blah. Curious. First of all, it was a shotgun and I'm pretty certain that plenty of citizens got those in countries where handguns, assault rifles and suchlike are banned. But I also wondered what they would do in such an event--maybe get out their aluminum extension ladder and a chainsaw and see how that goes? Prediction: quite possibly, not very well.

There's just something about the whole Southern Strategy and the mindset and ethos surrounding such that's always grated. It's like, you can say pretty much anything just so long as you say it all polite-like. But any deviation from form and the accepted aesthetic, and people'll be losing their shit.
 
If Trump's goal is to keep all that money in the US - which seems to be his goal in other areas - then it is likely he will apply tariffs to any shooting done outside the US.
Sure, but "coming into our country..." is perhaps different than "created by our country...". So this would actually suggest that the target is films made by foreign companies that are not shot in the US (e.g. a Chinese film shot in China, or a British movie filmed in London etc), and not US-made films that happen to be shot in foreign countries (as that is not a movie "coming into our country" as the movie will only exist once it's all been put together, and will already be in-country and not "coming into").
But, yeah, who actually knows at this stage. Trump says something and then looks to him team to make sense of it. So, we'll see.
Right. Or is it net proceeds? Does the government get 20% of the net in the case above?
A tariff is on the import cost, though, not net. Net is after costs. If a film is not profitable then no tariffs would be paid on the net. That's no good to him, as it would be far too easy to make the profits look "zero", even if that means off-shoring the actual profit into a foreign company for the time being (i.e. until the "tariffs" are removed by the next President).
Or they simply start eliminating live shoots, and do everything on green screen with stock footage. (Or just replace actors with CGI altogether.) That would have a pretty devastating effect on the US economy, as all that money goes away.
Sure, as I said, "they cut down on their vision / scope / production values etc."
 
A halfway decent interviewer would have jumped on that to ask him directly if he remembered swearing it. American interviewers are far too respectful.

True, that. But think, also, what that implies about the Overton window.

There are reasons why the boundaries are what they are.

For Welker, that question was the pushback↱.

One does not get the host's chair on Meet the Press without a reputation for staying in one's lane.

(It's kind of like over at Disney news, when ABC decided to submarine Stephanopoulous. NBC News is no different. They're not going to take a stand that so clearly distresses rightists. e.g., A tale of two lawsuits: If lawyers for a FOX News host took the "no reasonable viewer" route, it's because Tucker Carlson was a known liar; NBC News and Rachel Maddow's lawyers, by contrast, took the "no reasonable viewer" route because, while her allegedly defamatory statement could be construed as true, NBC News wanted to appease the Trump administration.)​

And, sure, there is plenty of room for discussion of capitalism, and what value we mean when describing the value of a free press.

I sometimes forget the reach of the nightly news because those programs are so terrible. But I easily forget the reach of the Sunday shows because discussion of subtleties, such as having sworn an oath, comes to seem distal and rarefied, a boutique specialty of sorts.

But it's like we're finding with the law firms and universities; capitulating news agencies will be looked upon poorly in future history.

Part of what you're observing is, to put it simply, characteristic of the American marketplace.
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NBC News. "Read the full transcript: President Donald Trump interviewed by 'Meet the Press' moderator Kristen Welker". 4 May 2025. NBCNews.com. 5 May 2025. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...d-trump-interviewed-meet-press-mod-rcna203514
 
There's just something about the whole Southern Strategy and the mindset and ethos surrounding such that's always grated. It's like, you can say pretty much anything just so long as you say it all polite-like. But any deviation from form and the accepted aesthetic, and people'll be losing their shit.

It's all they have, and in social media settings it's even more apparent. Something about the psychopathology of bullying↑, or, as Sartre suggested, they are amusing themselves with frivolous remarks, a manner of play intended to discredit the seriousness of discussion, such as to delight in bad faith, seeking to intimidate and disconcert because they cannot persuade by sound argument. It becomes a manner of solidarity: "They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side."

It's easy to recall the time JoPe went after Medhi's color↗, because the people trying to explain it have to be so particular; Kate Manne explained, "Like many of his ilk, what he really seems to be demanding, when one examines his actions rather than words, is to be able to speak free from legitimate social consequences, such as other people talking back."

It's not a new point, nor when Zack Beauchamp suggested, of the Harper's Letter↗, "Abstract appeals to 'free speech' and 'liberal values' obscure the fact that what's being debated is not anyone's right to speech, but rather their right to air that speech in specific platforms like the New York Times without fear of social backlash."

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I was, today, revisiting a post I never answered, over in another thread. It was a weird time for a certain argument to just show up at random, but if it's never quite clear how to address these moments when they arise, it's also true that they're not actually random; there is a reason they come up when they do.

And that's the thing, the genteel pretense requires a pretense of enforcement, and here we find the reason why certain strange arguments tend to coincide with traditional superstition; scattered dissent, deviation, and infidelity generally can't bring numbers against the entrenched superstition of traditionalist empowerment.

It's one thing if I can't drum↗ hard↗ enough↑ on the point about redefinition of terms, but, sure, it stands out as important when a narrative should require redefinition of the terminology in order to pretend validity. i.e., Given that certain words have certain definitions because other asserted meanings introduce imprecision and inconsistency, we might notice when an argument requires that margin of doubt.

In the moment, it's hard to know what to tell someone. Consider the idea that someone cannot win the argument, so instead hopes to make the point of dispute go away by washing it out in the noise, hiding the extraordinary amid the mundane. Behaviorally, that doesn't sound especially uncommon; there is a lot of if and but along the way.

Still, c'mon, baby, let's do the twist: What if ... y'know, just, what if .... What if the problem is that someone legitimately does not understand the difference between two contexts of a single word, such that they apply the one context to the other, and thus cannot figure why the logic does not compute?

No, really, seriously, I'm not joking. Poe's Law: This is not NLP/LLM. I accept this is a person. Now, what the fuck? Oh, wait, never mind. More to the point is the idea that someone can do this compared to who notices.

Which brings us 'round to the Southern Strategy, and, hey, wny not the Southern Genteelness, except they haven't really figured out the dignified façade, but, rather, indignance; they cannot match the actual pretense of elegance, so they guffaw their way along just like hopeless bullies always have.

And it only really works in certain ways.

Still, just do it with style, and a smile.

 
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