The unmanned Mars missions were probably faked

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paddoboy said:
Truth Freddy, why were you banned?
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One day I went to log in and I got this message.

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Your password is 2723 days old, and has therefore expired.

Please change your password using this page.
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"This page" is a hotlink. When I click on it, I get this.


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You have been put in The Box. This means you are not allowed to post in any forum except The Box until your sentence expires (unless you are in The Box forever).

Reason: No reason was specified.

Date you will be released from The Box: Never
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The word "banned" doesn't appear by my name so it looks like I chickened out and left. I'm blocked from posting there.


paddoboy said:
Do you have any aliases/sock puppets at other forums Freddy?
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I've been banned on a lot of forums just for politely arguing the alternative side of issues and winning. I've gone back with different usernames several times. I wouldn't have done that if I hadn't been unjustly banned in the first place. If I'd never been unjustly banned anywhere, I would have kept the original username.
 
FatFreddy said:
I've been banned on a lot of forums just for politely arguing the alternative side of issues and winning. I've gone back with different usernames several times. I wouldn't have done that if I hadn't been unjustly banned in the first place. If I'd never been unjustly banned anywhere, I would have kept the original username.
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Of course you have for obvious reasons! Would you like me to spell that out again?
FatFreddy said:
this is woo, huh?
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Yep, 100% woo and why you have been banned so many times.
FatFreddy said:
I was banned because the sophists* working that forum couldn't try to obfuscate the clear proof that the Apollo footage was taken on Earth without looking like horses' a---s.*
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No, you're a delusional liar obviously....you were banned because it was you acting like a horses arse and posting deranged nonsense.
Here, you may like this. :D
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/e6/76/f4e67617808035274c7107f1347791a4.jpg
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FatFreddy said:
You know my answer to this.
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I'm not interested in your answer. The facts are as presented and history will support that...On both the reasons why you have been banned so many times, and the historical fact re the Moon landings and the other nonsensical crazy denial conspiracy crap on other matters, you like preaching on.

The only point Freddy you actually have going for you, is you did say that you disagree with the real crazy, bottom rung of the ladder loonies, who say the Earth is flat. You are certainly a rung above those idiots, but not sure how one would/should categorise those just one rung above those bottom of the ladder loonies....slightly less crazy perhaps? :p

I have also notice in some of your rhetorical nonsense, you often claim that others here see the wisdom you imagine you possess.
We do have other two or three other conspiracy nuts on board, but they accept we did go to the Moon and consequently they are not quite as low as yourself on that rung just above the complete crazy bottom of the ladder loonies. They are another rung above you, and why you don't get their support.:p
One of those is river, who wisely knows we did go to the Moon, but like you suffers from delusions of grandeur, and pushes other near equally stupid scenarios like atomic wars on Mars between Alien species. Perhaps you and him should put your heads together and see what you can come up with that will give us a bigger belly laugh:p then what you have been giving the forum of late.
 
paddoboy said:
I'm not interested in your answer. The facts are as presented and history will support that...On both the reasons why you have been banned so many times, and the historical fact re the Moon landings and the other nonsensical crazy denial conspiracy crap on other matters, you like preaching on.
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Once people have seen the hoax evidence*, there's nothing you can do to make them think the moon missions were real. The anomalies are simply too clear. There's a point at which things are so clear that sophistry simply becomes ineffective.


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https://www.giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=31034
 
FatFreddy said:
Once people have seen the hoax evidence*, there's nothing you can do to make them think the moon missions were real. The anomalies are simply too clear. There's a point at which things are so clear that sophistry simply becomes ineffective.
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And yet as per your other tin foiled hat inspired nonsense, you have yet to garnish any support for your over active imagination. :p And again, the only thing ineffective are your imaginative claims, going on the wild noisy support you are getting:D
That's a joke Freddy!!!!:p
 
At the 1:35 time mark of this video it says the Mars Viking lander fell from its parachute at about one kilometer above the surface and landed with retrorockets.

How Viking Conquered Mars: Entry, Descent, and Landing


According to this video NASA still hadn't perfected landings with retrorockets in 2012.

TRY, TRY AGAIN


It seems that it wasn't perfected until around 2016-

The SpaceX Falcon 9 landings are NOT played in reverse!


That's really got me wondering whether the Viking landers were real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_program


This isn't proof in and of itself but it's pretty strong circumstantial evidence.
 
FatFreddy said:
At the 1:35 time mark of this video it says the Mars Viking lander fell from its parachute at about one kilometer above the surface and landed with retrorockets.N According to this video NASA still hadn't perfected landings with retrorockets in 2012.
It seems that it wasn't perfected until around 2016 That's really got me wondering whether the Viking landers were real.
This isn't proof in and of itself but it's pretty strong circumstantial evidence.
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The problem is your complete faith in bullshit conspiracy videos and a hopeless education. There is a world of difference between landing a narrow upright rocket on Earth in high gravity and 1 atm, compared to the Moon and Mars. The use of wider framed landers, wider spread out exhausts and the need for far less thrust is much easier and was conquered very easily.

NASA used LLRV/LLTV machines to practice landings and though masters of woo and bullshit like yourself highlight 3 crashes, there were hundreds of successful tests.

 
David C said:
The problem is your complete faith in bullshit conspiracy videos and a hopeless education. There is a world of difference between landing a narrow upright rocket on Earth in high gravity and 1 atm, compared to the Moon and Mars. The use of wider framed landers, wider spread out exhausts and the need for far less thrust is much easier and was conquered very easily.

NASA used LLRV/LLTV machines to practice landings and though masters of woo and bullshit like yourself highlight 3 crashes, there were hundreds of successful tests.

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Much can be said about Fat Freddy...and while true, none of it is nice and/or complimentary.
 
The nicest thing I can say about FF is that he's perfectly equipped for a post-truth world.
 
FatFreddy said:
Wow. I didn't know about this. It looks like they had that capability.
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How can anyone be that ignorant not to realise this basic thing before throwing shit at mankind's achievements!


There's still the issue of the picture with the roads though.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/.../File:676029main_pia16052-color-full_full.jpg

I'm still not convinced the missions were real.
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Perspective! It would be about half a mile wide at that distance, this was explained to you. Pretty dumb road, don't ya think? It starts after the hill slopes up and then stops with nowhere else to go.
 
David C said:
How can anyone be that ignorant not to realise this basic thing before throwing shit at mankind's achievements!
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Thankfully, most level headed folk, treat these types of fools with more wonderment and compassion, shake their heads and walk away!:rolleyes:
 
FatFreddy said:
It's too far away to see that detail.
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As I said "It starts after the hill slopes up and then stops with nowhere else to go."

You're seeing what you want to see.
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What, you mean like a "road" that must be stupidly wide at that distance and goes nowhere half way up a bloody hill?
 
paddoboy said:
Thankfully, most level headed folk, treat these types of fools with more wonderment and compassion, shake their heads and walk away!:rolleyes:
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Unfortunately, this type of person is making the current Covid19 pandemic into a "it's all faked" conspiracy and will cause untold damage with their appalling behaviour. They are simply not reachable with any form of logic or reason.

The loony posted this on his basketball forum rubber room about "censorship" -

"I think I'm about to get banned over at SciForums. I'm debating with the moderator now and they ban people when they start looking silly.
Here's a post I just made."

FatFreddy said:
Wow. I didn't know about this.
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The list of things you don't know about could fill Madrid!

FYI: Fatfreddy/Cosmored/Rocky/Drifty - they ban people when they break the rules and behave like ignorant trolls. Somewhere out in the real world is a life to be had that doesn't involve believing every idiotic conspiracy. You have never looked as smart as "silly", your wilful ignorance is only matched by your persistence and denial.
 
FatFreddy said:
There's still the issue of the picture with the roads though.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/.../File:676029main_pia16052-color-full_full.jpg
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Then where on Earth was that image taken?

Given the distance, as David noted, that road would be huge - the link you provided clearly states the image was taken from 11 miles away...

And if you can see a "road" that clearly from 11 miles away, then it would be massive and probably visible from space! So if you think it is a road, which road is it?

FatFreddy said:
I'm still not convinced the missions were real.
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You don't think anything is real.

So, this is hardly news or surprising.

FatFreddy said:
It's too far away to see that detail. You're seeing what you want to see.
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Given you are seeing a road in that picture, I don't think you are in any position to accuse anyone of this.

The link you provided even explains what it is:

This is the first view scientists have had of a fluvial system - one relating to a river or stream -- from the surface of Mars. Known and studied since the 1970s beginning with NASA's Viking missions, such networks date from a period in Martian history when water flowed freely across the surface. The main channel deposit seen here resembles a dirt road ascending into the mountains, which are actually the north wall and rim of Gale Crater.​

Gale Crater, by the way, is 96 miles in diameter. You can find other images - wide angle images - taken from inside the crater here: https://mars.nasa.gov/resources/21468/wide-angle-panorama-from-ridge-in-mars-gale-crater/

You can see even more evidence of it here: https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/details.php?id=PIA14291

All of which show the ancient water system that once existed on the planet - that you are claiming is a road..
 
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