I just quoted you misrepresenting MR. He claimed one thing, and then you erroneously attributed a viewpoint to him that he never expressed. Isn't it rather interesting that individuals who scream 'intellectual dishonesty' at the top of their lungs are the ones who engage in the most skulduggery? Projection at its finest.
Hm, I dare say you are either illiterate, or attempting to troll... how droll.
Allow me to open your eyes.
MR Posted:
If a poster doesn't agree with your accessment that they are being dishonest, they certainly have to right to do that. The burden will then be on you to prove they are being dishonest and deliberately deceptive, something very hard to do. Again, it all boils down to the subjective feelings of the accuser, which are often already clouded with hostility towards the accused and a desire to shut him up because he will not agree with them. How do we know the very attempt to punish someone for dishonesty isn't itself laden with a personal agenda to censor the opposing view? We don't. That's why its a bad idea as an infractionable or bannable offence. Because it can always be twisted by someone towards getting rid of someone they don't like, particularly when you have a moderator also so embroiled in the debate he has lost all objectivity to properly moderate anymore.
A little context: In several previous threads, MR has taken to simply IGNORING evidence that stands in opposition to his position; be this because he knows he cannot sufficiently explain it or otherwise, he has ignored it. (as a recent example - the bigfoot thread, and his refusal to answer for how the creature could possibly procreate given the lack of genetic diversity)
I replied:
So you feel that intentionally and repeatedly misquoting someone is not dishonest? That ignoring arguments you dislike or cannot disprove isn't dishonest? Please, elaborate on this.
MR's reply:
You would have to both prove that there was a misquote, and an intent to misquote, which is very hard to do. Simply alleging dishonesty doesn't hack it. And people ignore points and arguments for many reasons. Many I ignore because they're so irrelevant to the debate that they derail the discussion. Like whether a lie is an intentional lie or just a falsehood, both definitions of which are found in the dictionary. Many others I ignore because they are based on false assumptions, because they are red herrings, or because they are strawmen. Doesn't mean there is an intent to deceive going on.
Now, he is entitled to his opinion; however, just as in the criminal justice system, your opinion on the ruling does not, by itself, excuse yourself from said ruling.
Then you come along and claim
andFor someone who complains endlessly about intellectual dishonesty, you sure have a habit of misrepresenting the viewpoints of other posters. Physician, heal thyself.
I just quoted you misrepresenting MR. He claimed one thing, and then you erroneously attributed a viewpoint to him that he never expressed. Isn't it rather interesting that individuals who scream 'intellectual dishonesty' at the top of their lungs are the ones who engage in the most skulduggery? Projection at its finest.
So, again I say - point out where I have misrepresented what MR is saying.