Sciforums Muslim/Arab Bias

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oh dear
it seems i might be part of the problem

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/hangs head
 
Continuing:

If you accuse a nation of falsely stealing land - then let's account those who have stolen more land than anyone else on this planet. I know that some 80 Million Indians lost their lives when Islam invaded that country and stole a third of its lands and dumped a Mosque on their most sacred site. Is this a familiar story of what occured in Palestine - to the real Palestineans? WTF is your mosque doing in Jerusalem?

Typical muslim in denial of the very blood thirsty nature of your religion.

That Ayatollah's existence is not compatible with human decency or morality.

Taqiyaa in action. Lying for Allah.

When a Muslim is defending Islam or himself, he is told to lie in order to "keep the peace" as it were. Muslim's have little concept of this great error in logic and rationale and produce one lie after the other as they've lost all perspective of the world around them.

The removing of ones head makes for ample persuasion.



So was Hitler, but he didn't screw 9 year old girls.

No, the exact opposite - we do not, as you do, get to pick and choose what is really Islam and what isn't. We are given whatever Muslims think Islam is - any and every significant brand of Muslim. The genital mutilators, the suicide bombers, the persecutors of authors and cartoonists, the abusers of women on the streets of my city, the anti-evolutionists and believers in Noah's Flood, we don't get to simply tell them they are not being proper Muslims, that their Islam is defective.

Hilarious. Lying for Allah, again? Men are allowed to have four wives but women are only allowed to have one husband.

And, he calls this "freedom" :bravo:

I lived with Muslim families in both Northern Africa and the Middle East. Of course, one need not go so far as to place themselves amongst them when those Muslims themselves demonstrate to the whole world their barbaric acts.

They have no morals, Michael, they don't know what you're talking about. They get their values from myths and superstitions.
 
Fine, I was going to let the OP take care of that but alright, I'll post a few for starters:



In response to me commenting on the neo-Nazi who shot up a Jewish School in LA he said the following:



Originally Posted by Buffalo Roam
By a Muslim.

Yes, Islam is so color blind, and tolerant of conflicting religious belief, even among themselves

BR is very right wing in his views and not very muslim friendly but it seems here his comment is reflecting reality (in many places) where is the specific attack on islam?

Originally Posted by CptBork
Why is it the finger gets pointed at white people as if they're the only ones responsible? Germany had millions of collaborators throughout the middle east when it was involved there in WW2, and not only did several Muslim countries take advantage of African slavery on a scale comparable to what happened in the US, but guess where America bought many of its African slaves from in the first place?

Valid point where is the attack on islam?

Originally Posted by IamJoseph
Q. How did Pakistan, Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and Saudi Arabia become sacred islamic soil?

A. 30 Barrels of oil.

Check it out - none of those states are based on historical borders, most were created in secret recently, and all of them flaunted the rights to the original inhabitants: Egypt, for example, belonged to the Copts, and parts of Iraq belonged to the Kurds. Of course, Jerusalem and Hebron never belonged to the Jews - thus a Saudi dwarf put up signs:

DOGS & JEWS FORBIDDEN!

He's a christian fundie but again where is the attack on islam here?

Originally Posted by Adstar
It is an in your face celebration of the victory over the infidels that they achieved on 9/11. Smash and burn them and whack a mosque down on top of their burnt remains to gloat over their defeat.

A mega christian fundie nutter does anyone actually pay attention to him??

Originally Posted by Psycho Bound
Im moving to England.
We get attacked, thousands of people die, and we allow them to worship there.

Don't know the context of this but it sounds like gross generalization.

Originally Posted by Captain Kremmen
What do they need 13 stories for?
I'll tell yer.

Story 1. The Mosque
Story 2. Book shop
Story 3. Muslim advice centre.
Story 4. Women's floor
and so on and so on.........................

Story 13. Flight Training School

Come on this was a joke even SAM saw that, I think you are maybe oversensitive.

Originally Posted by IamJoseph
WND is no nut case - it exposes Osama - oops, I mean Obama, while the Lefties' resume against terror is 'BLANK'.

Again see above and this is more an attack on Democrats/liberals than muslims or do you mean that Osama represents muslims?











Also, the fact that every five seconds there seems to be a new "Iran is evil," thread.

I think this is a gross exaggeration but report hateful posts if you see them and post them here.
 
Shadow1, you were totally right to see and criticize the Sciforums community for it's bias against the Middle East and Islam.

The psychotic cult of Islam is not alone in it's insanity, there are plenty of other psychotic cults to criticize and ridicule. No bias whatsoever. LOL!
 
BR is very right wing in his views and not very muslim friendly but it seems here his comment is reflecting reality (in many places) where is the specific attack on islam?

Point being? Also, are you serious? He called a White neo-Nazi whom shot children, a Muslim. He just blamed a horrific and wanton attack on innocent people on Muslims by claiming the shooter was Muslim himself, even after I posted a picture of him and provided context as to why the shooter did this.

Valid point where is the attack on islam?

It's shifting blame of the transatlantic slave trade from White European Christians to Middle-Eastern/Arab Muslims, all but blaming them for it.

He's a christian fundie but again where is the attack on islam here?

Uh, it's a fairly obvious attack on Arabs/Muslims. This thread isn't just about Muslims and Islam but also bias against Arabs and the Middle-East.

A mega christian fundie nutter does anyone actually pay attention to him??

Point?

Don't know the context of this but it sounds like gross generalization.

In response to the myth about the "mosque on ground zero."

I think you are maybe oversensitive.

Not really, if it truly was a joke, then fine, if it wasn't, it wouldn't really surprise me on this forum.

Again see above and this is more an attack on Democrats/liberals than muslims or do you mean that Osama represents muslims?

Yes, it's an attack on the Democrats and liberals and Mr. Obama by using the insult "Osama," and thus linking him (Obama) with Muslims and Islam, which apparently you don't want to be or believe in otherwise it wouldn't be such a widely used insult. Case in point, Obama has to say "I'm Christian," every five seconds or the political right has a shit fit. It's also using bin Laden as an example of Muslims, in general, they are "the enemy," the despised "other," and thus the linking of Obama/Democrats and Osama/Muslims/Islam.

I think this is a gross exaggeration but report hateful posts if you see them and post them here.

What's the point? It's not likely anything is ever really done.
 
HAHA you are so busted islamophobe!

but i am an islamophobe
i am quite contemptuous of all religions and as a consequence, of its practitioners.

still tho...
i hereby formally request my post history be protected from prying eyes
lock that shit up

/nervous cackle
 
Aww, feeling victimized and offended? Your psychotic and hate-driven cult being ridiculed for its insanity doesn't sit well with you? LOL!

Eat a dick? :)

Nice, so were just going to deny everything, class. Say anything similar about Jews though and boom, you're ass is banned.
 
Point being? Also, are you serious? He called a White neo-Nazi whom shot children, a Muslim. He just blamed a horrific and wanton attack on innocent people on Muslims by claiming the shooter was Muslim himself, even after I posted a picture of him and provided context as to why the shooter did this.

I just replied regarding the quote you posted and also said he isn't muslim or liberal friendly



It's shifting blame of the transatlantic slave trade from White European Christians to Middle-Eastern/Arab Muslims, all but blaming them for it.

It's a fact that muslim slave traders controlled the market in much of africa is this an attack on islam?


etc etc actually we could do this all day, instead why don't you specifically list what is bias against muslims in these posts. By muslims I mean all muslims not the specific actions of certain muslims because it seems like what you want is a sanction on criticism of muslims as a whole. Would you also want sanctions on criticism of westerners, christians, asians, hindus buddhists etc as a whole or are you a hypocrite?

example: Should it only be allowed to discuss western participation in the slave trade?
 
Nice, so were just going to deny everything, class. Say anything similar about Jews though and boom, you're ass is banned.

Lying for Allah, again?

Say what you want about the insanity of Judaism. It's a sick and twisted ideology just like Islam and Christianity. No problem.

You and I are brothers in species, my short-peckered friend, but you have decided to join a psychotic cult that tells you how to live and how to hate and despise others who aren't part of your cult.
 
etc etc actually we could do this all day, instead why don't you specifically list what is bias against muslims in these posts. By muslims I mean all muslims not the specific actions of certain muslims

That is not how things are being portrayed or how things are being phrased and you know it. X actions by specific individuals or group of individuals is being used as an example of (God forbid) the "evil," of Islam and guilt is being applied collectively to all Muslims in general by association. It's one thing to comment on say FCG in the African states, it's something else to say it's an inherent/intrinsic part of Islam/Islamic practice and is practiced by all Muslims even outside of that specific geographical/cultural region. It's the same for most issues involving Islam and Muslims. If it truly was about specific individuals or group of individuals then why are abstract/general terms such as 'Muslim' being used here? I mean, come on, what the hell do you think this implies?

The fact that some members are on the political right, "fundamentalist," (whatever that means) Christians, etc. seems kind of irrelevant as far as this conversation is concerned.
 
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Lying for Allah, again?

Keep proving my/our point. Do all Arabs lie, in your opinion?

You and I are brothers in species

Nice, Imam Ali (as) said something similiar:

"A person is either your brother in faith or your equal in humanity."-Imam Ali (AS).

my short-peckered friend.

How Freudian:

"I disagree with you and my cocks bigger, so ha!"

Argumentum ad biggus dickus?
 
All over the non-Muslim world, we hear incessant demands that those who believe in the literal truth of the Quran be granted "respect." We are supposed to watch what we say about Islam, lest by any chance we be considered "offensive." A fair number of authors and academics in the West now have to live under police protection or endure prosecution in the courts for not observing this taboo with sufficient care. A stupid term—Islamophobia—has been put into circulation to try and suggest that a foul prejudice lurks behind any misgivings about Islam's infallible "message."

Well, this idiotic masochism has to be dropped. There may have been a handful of ugly incidents, provoked by lumpen elements, after certain episodes of Muslim terrorism. But no true secularist or even Christian has been involved in anything like the torching of a mosque. (The last time that such a thing did happen on any scale—in Bosnia—the United States and Britain intervened militarily to put a stop to it. We also overthrew the Taliban, which was slaughtering the Hazara Shiite minority in Afghanistan.) But where are the denunciations from centers of Sunni and Shiite authority of the daily murder and torture of Islamic co-religionists? Of the regular desecration of holy sites and holy books? Of the paranoid insults thrown so carelessly and callously by one Muslim group at another? This mounting ghastliness is a bit more worthy of condemnation, surely, than a few Danish cartoons or a false rumor about a profaned copy of the Quran in Guantanamo. The civilized world—yes I do mean to say that—should find its own voice and state firmly to Muslim leaders and citizens that respect is something to be earned and not demanded with menace.

Christopher Hitchens
 
That is not how things are being portrayed or how things are being phrased and you know it. X actions by specific individuals or group of individuals is being used as an example of the evil of Islam and guilt is being applied collectively to all Muslims in general by association. It's one thing to comment on say FCG in the African states, it's something else to say it's an inherent/intrinsic part of Islam/Islamic practice and is practiced by all Muslims even outside of that specific geographical/cultural region. It's the same for most issues involving Islam and Muslims. ....

No I don't know that all I see is you reacting to anything at all to do with muslims. I don't see that criticizing some muslims for some behaviour as a blanket condemnation of all muslims as I don't see condemnation of the war in Iraq as a condemnation of all americans.

it's something else to say it's an inherent/intrinsic part of Islam/Islamic practice and is practiced by all Muslims even outside of that specific geographical/cultural region.

This is what I'm talkin about post it or report it then you may have an arguable case. ;)

The fact that some members are on the political right, "fundamentalist," (whatever that means) Christians, etc. seems kind of irrelevant as far as this conversation is concerned.

No it is completely relevant as claiming bias here based on fundie, right wing posters is similar to claiming all muslims are bias/evil based on Osama bin Laden. You haven't been here too long you will learn who to ignore.
 
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