Revolutionary Concept
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Ever read a book called "Mote In God's Eye"?
In this book, there is a place where the "alien" uses something simular to repair a circut. While it is not used as a manufacturing process, the idea is there. Naturally we could not preform such a feat with present technology.
My compliments if you have come upon such a method but I shall remain sceptical till seeing some sort of proof that it is now possible.
In this book, there is a place where the "alien" uses something simular to repair a circut. While it is not used as a manufacturing process, the idea is there. Naturally we could not preform such a feat with present technology.
My compliments if you have come upon such a method but I shall remain sceptical till seeing some sort of proof that it is now possible.
no i have not read the book wanderer. i just checked it out on amazon and it sounds interesting. are my posts better now than cheeze whiz stories?
let me tell you this, a liquid can be a solid if it is solidified and liquified simultaneously to act as a liquid yet retain the properties of a solid. this requires a balanced electrical current incorporating gating priciples to keep the mass in a constant state of motion through this pseudo phase transition. therefore it maintains all atomic and physical laws and appears to be a gel.
never assume - always verify
let me tell you this, a liquid can be a solid if it is solidified and liquified simultaneously to act as a liquid yet retain the properties of a solid. this requires a balanced electrical current incorporating gating priciples to keep the mass in a constant state of motion through this pseudo phase transition. therefore it maintains all atomic and physical laws and appears to be a gel.
never assume - always verify
river-wind
Valued Senior Member
a very interesting idea, however, but definition of a liquid, the material would have to be able to "flow". by flowing, each individual atom would have to be able to move indipendantly of it's surrounding wouldn't it?
If so, then every time an atom moved and was replaced by surrounding atoms, short circuits and mis-wiring would occur, based on what atom/molecule has just moved into the circuit.
As far as liquified solids, I have two real world examples:
Glass (not actually a solid, but an extreemly slow moving solid)
menstruation (sorry for the graphic nature of this example, but it is a perfect example of a liquid-solid)
neither of these materials could true be considered "structured" enough to hold information such as molecular design.
If you indeed have come up with a method to control the pattern of molecular spacing of a liquid through electrical charges,I would suggest that you officialise the patant proccess before discussing it any further in public. If you still need help with the details, I would reccomend approaching a chemical manufacturing company to provide you with any other resources you need, in trade for a percentage of the profits for the final proccess.
If so, then every time an atom moved and was replaced by surrounding atoms, short circuits and mis-wiring would occur, based on what atom/molecule has just moved into the circuit.
As far as liquified solids, I have two real world examples:
Glass (not actually a solid, but an extreemly slow moving solid)
menstruation (sorry for the graphic nature of this example, but it is a perfect example of a liquid-solid)
neither of these materials could true be considered "structured" enough to hold information such as molecular design.
If you indeed have come up with a method to control the pattern of molecular spacing of a liquid through electrical charges,I would suggest that you officialise the patant proccess before discussing it any further in public. If you still need help with the details, I would reccomend approaching a chemical manufacturing company to provide you with any other resources you need, in trade for a percentage of the profits for the final proccess.
i would really be suprised if someone could figure out how this works before the patent is secure. let me just say, i have been working on this for over half my life.
in addition, reference was made to T2. the concept was in the works before the film hit the screen in 1991. to that individual who made the reference, let it be known that it cannot stand on its own, it needs a form of containment, it can be a cup or it can be an antenna, it does not matter. gravity still applies.
in addition, reference was made to T2. the concept was in the works before the film hit the screen in 1991. to that individual who made the reference, let it be known that it cannot stand on its own, it needs a form of containment, it can be a cup or it can be an antenna, it does not matter. gravity still applies.
Hey,
This sounds relatively interesting, but extremely vauge. I was wondering if you could explain the benifits of your idea. I'm pretty sure that doing this won't give away the works. Right?
You said that the circuitry could be continuously cooled. Does this mean that the metal floats through a maze-like system of tiny canals? Cause that would be possible, but I still don't see the revolutionary significance in such a system (because only the cooling advantage is considered).
How much would this system cost? I think I need to hear the benifits before I can see the significance in your idea.
This sounds relatively interesting, but extremely vauge. I was wondering if you could explain the benifits of your idea. I'm pretty sure that doing this won't give away the works. Right?
You said that the circuitry could be continuously cooled. Does this mean that the metal floats through a maze-like system of tiny canals? Cause that would be possible, but I still don't see the revolutionary significance in such a system (because only the cooling advantage is considered).
How much would this system cost? I think I need to hear the benifits before I can see the significance in your idea.
the primary benefit is the circuitry could literally be "poured" into any container needed needed to house the electrical circuitry. for example, the size of your dashboard could be diminished drastically allowing for more room and or circuitry to be added for addiontal features. your computer could fit inside of a hallow desk. size would be smaller due to the structure needing to be only as large as the volume of the what i will call "gell". in addion, the size and shape of anything with electronics is infinite. the only requirements would be proportional balancing for mobile products.
glad you like - this is no Segway
glad you like - this is no Segway
ha ya Segway was a total bust, it is one of the most useless peices of machinery - being more expensive and wider (the dimention that matters) than a bike, slower than a car, less able to carry anything than a person walking. Its an all around stupid idea, although I'm sure its quite fun to use.
When you say "in addion, the size and shape of anything with electronics is infinite." What are you talking about? Obviously the size of anything cannot be infinite an shape is not quantatative.
Also, when you say the circuit can be poured into its container, does that mean you pour it into a box and it reforms its supposed shape, or that when you pour it into the box, it stays liquid, but keeps its intended cicuit intact?
The first one seems more possible than the second, but the second seems like what you mean. It seems impossible that a liquid that has no mold can retain a circuit.
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When you say "in addion, the size and shape of anything with electronics is infinite." What are you talking about? Obviously the size of anything cannot be infinite an shape is not quantatative.
Also, when you say the circuit can be poured into its container, does that mean you pour it into a box and it reforms its supposed shape, or that when you pour it into the box, it stays liquid, but keeps its intended cicuit intact?
The first one seems more possible than the second, but the second seems like what you mean. It seems impossible that a liquid that has no mold can retain a circuit.
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I believe!!
I have just read all the posts on this subject Dribbler and i find it very interesting, has this been mentioned anywhere on the web before becasue it sounds vaguely familiar, i read New Scientist and other science mags maybe i read something similar before?
Anyhoo i say good luck to you but one question i would have is what about safety, as you mentioned this technology could be used in dashboard electronics, what if in the case of a crash the liquid/gel was released from its "container", is the gel poisonous, acidic, harmful in any way?
I have just read all the posts on this subject Dribbler and i find it very interesting, has this been mentioned anywhere on the web before becasue it sounds vaguely familiar, i read New Scientist and other science mags maybe i read something similar before?
Anyhoo i say good luck to you but one question i would have is what about safety, as you mentioned this technology could be used in dashboard electronics, what if in the case of a crash the liquid/gel was released from its "container", is the gel poisonous, acidic, harmful in any way?
shutupandshave
Registered Member
forgive me ignorance, but if a liquid is kept at a semi-liquid/solid state doesn't it have to either have an exact temperature or a different pressure with a different temperature?
How would this liquid remain in your special transitionary state whilst in a cup?
How would this liquid remain in your special transitionary state whilst in a cup?
ripleofdeath
Registered Senior Member
heyya dribbler
quote...
gravity still applies.
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whats ya readin on harmonics like?
should help ya get rib of that nasty grav issue
good luck
groove on
quote...
gravity still applies.
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whats ya readin on harmonics like?
should help ya get rib of that nasty grav issue
good luck
groove on
Ok i see your point about every technology having negative potential, and im sure you have factored this in if you have been developing this concept for as long as you say.
One other question i have is, in a normal electrical circuit you have components such as resistors, capacitors, transisitors etc.. how can a liquid circuit incorporate the functionality of these components? Does the liquid simply take an input and produce an output equivalent to a circuit with the above components in it?
One other question i have is, in a normal electrical circuit you have components such as resistors, capacitors, transisitors etc.. how can a liquid circuit incorporate the functionality of these components? Does the liquid simply take an input and produce an output equivalent to a circuit with the above components in it?
the dashboard is not even what i would consider a prime example. imagine if electronic devices could be built by having an "assembly line" of "pours" instead of an actual assembly line of electronic components that needed to be attached to a board or peripherals.
- thanks for the support
- thanks for the support
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joemama
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This would self destruct in theory