Discussion: Quran detailing stuff impossible to know without modern scientific gear

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And if you are in doubt about what We have revealed (the Quran) to Our worshiper (Muhammad
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), then produce a chapter like it, and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides God if you are truthful. And if you do not do it, and you can never do it, then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones. It has been prepared for disbelievers. And give good news (O Muhammad) to those who believe and do good deeds, that for them are gardens (Paradise) in which rivers flow....
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(Quran, 2:23-25)

Bismillahir rahmanir raheem , Allah asks you to bare witness, Allah's showing of might is cast upon to all, thou shall not lie and bare false witness.
 
new input to what, exactly? This thread has been dead for months, and the related debate ended in 2010...

oh, let me guess - you never bothered to read the rules for the Formal Debates forum, did you...
 
new input to what, exactly? This thread has been dead for months, and the related debate ended in 2010...

oh, let me guess - you never bothered to read the rules for the Formal Debates forum, did you...
I thought formal was just a chat?

New input as I just started reading the Quran , I instantly understand it, I know what it is , how it was derived and now want world piece.

I can mimic the Quran, I can discourse the Quran, I can visually put myself next to Mohammad in thought why the Quran was being written.
 
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It appears this discussion thread was simply forgotten about... but no, the "Formal Debates" forum is not just a "formal chat"
 
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It appears this discussion thread was simply forgotten about... but no, the "Formal Debates" forum is not just a "formal chat"
My apologies and misunderstanding. More points?
 


I am technically a Christian but I was rather impressed by this ancient Islamic prediction that reminded me of Isaiah chapter thirty five. I thought that this prediction laid a foundation for some cooperation between Muslims, Jews and anybody in any nation interested in the idea of turning deserts green.

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
 
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