Yeah its pretty clear who needs protection from whom.
Dark days in Gaza: Residents worried about winter
The poor Israelis, so misunderstood, if only people would realise how difficult their living conditions are.
News from Gaza Part 2
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Yeah its pretty clear who needs protection from whom.
Dark days in Gaza: Residents worried about winter
The poor Israelis, so misunderstood, if only people would realise how difficult their living conditions are.
Challenger78
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Does one have to have a relation or shared descent with a fellow human being to empathise with their suffering ?
The never ending cycle continues. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7801662.stm
I think that there will be an increasing cynicism and fatalism, combined with passive resignation, that will stagnate the palestinians will, and eventually allow complete submission.
Either that or escalated violence will only harden the hawks.
The never ending cycle continues. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7801662.stm
I think that there will be an increasing cynicism and fatalism, combined with passive resignation, that will stagnate the palestinians will, and eventually allow complete submission.
Either that or escalated violence will only harden the hawks.
I have no connection to it. Its just in my opinion the dumbest conflict going on and the one where the people arguing have the least unbiased knowledge of the events and history of the conflict. Yet both sides act as if they have all the knowledge. and if I can do something to get one person working toward a realistic fair and just end I can put me mind at ease.
also the only connection I need toward either side is they bleed the same red I do.
GAZA slaughteing
stop the crime
stop the massacre
stop the wild savage Israeli
and help the innocent people of gaza
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present result until now ...
more than 300 martyrs
more than 800 wounded
destroy all security office
frightening all gaza citizen
what next ?
stop the crime
stop the massacre
stop the wild savage Israeli
and help the innocent people of gaza
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present result until now ...
more than 300 martyrs
more than 800 wounded
destroy all security office
frightening all gaza citizen
what next ?
It is interesting to me. When Hamas, I presume, were firing mortars and rockets into Israel there wasn't a word said to stop them from doing that. But as soon as Israel fights back with its own rocket attack the world all of a sudden is notified of how bad those Israelis are and how they should stop the shelling and killing. Perhaps I am missing something but when one country provokes another everyone knows there will be retaliation, so why provoke others unless you are willing to pay the consequences.
Yes, I agree. When a country annexes the land of its neighbour, builds barriers across their neighbour’s territory to prevent their free movement, herds them into third-world gettos, builds illegal settlements on their land, blocks aid and essential services, and deliberately targets police personnel in massively inappropriate military responses, then everyone knows that this provocation will evoke retaliation.
Here's a video of a site used to launch rocket attacks on Israel being destroyed.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...layer&cid=1194419829128&videoId=1230456496945
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satell...layer&cid=1194419829128&videoId=1230456496945
And here is a thread showing how we moralistic types are ready to accept that a particular ethnicity has a superior claim.
Why did we stop Hitler? Was it because he invaded and oppressed the wrong people? If he had conquered more places outside Europe, would the West have been as concerned?
See how I'm comparing the Zionist cause with the Nazi cause? This is because the only difference is Israel's refusal to wear Aryan style uniforms and swastikas. They speak much the same way, with the same air of indifference to suffering, the same conviction that their cause is just. Who can point out why comparing Israel to Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa doesn't match up? There are glaring differences somewhere?
Why did we stop Hitler? Was it because he invaded and oppressed the wrong people? If he had conquered more places outside Europe, would the West have been as concerned?
See how I'm comparing the Zionist cause with the Nazi cause? This is because the only difference is Israel's refusal to wear Aryan style uniforms and swastikas. They speak much the same way, with the same air of indifference to suffering, the same conviction that their cause is just. Who can point out why comparing Israel to Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa doesn't match up? There are glaring differences somewhere?
Only Hamas can do that by not shooting rockets into Israel. If they persist, they may no longer have that option.
Savages don't generally say they'll stop attacking if they're not attacked.
As long as Hamas is running the show, that won't happen.
Means absolutely nothing.
Thanks to Hamas.
People lack the ability to see the future.
Buffalo Roam
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Let see,
From from November 2000, to Feburay 2005 there have been 406 Israeli Martyrs from Palestinian Suicide Bombings,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm
In 2006 another 20 Israels Martyrs, were killed in suicide bombings.
Yes,
Stop the massacre.
Stop the wild savage Palestinans
and help the innocent people of Israel.
Stop shooting at the Israelis, and, Feed the Children, Build them Schools, Build them Hospitals, Build them factories so when they grow up, they can work and build a life, build the Children water treatment facilities so they can have fresh water, build, build, build, build............
Israel has always depended - more than other nations - on claims of morally based legitimacy.
Now that it can no longer make any such claims, it will be interesting to see how long it can survive, at least in a form recognizable as being the "same" State. The role of legitimacy, of a foundation of morals and agreed principles and the consent of the governed, is a deep one - loss of it manifests in various ways.
Now that it can no longer make any such claims, it will be interesting to see how long it can survive, at least in a form recognizable as being the "same" State. The role of legitimacy, of a foundation of morals and agreed principles and the consent of the governed, is a deep one - loss of it manifests in various ways.
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