Nancy Pelosi is a felon.

[Quantum Quack]

Irony

Last year, few voters knew nor cared that Hunter Biden may have gotten his job with Burisma due to influence peddling by his dad.
Hinging the ill fated impeachment on an attempt to find the truth of the matter has had the unfortunate effect of bringing the possibility to everyone's attention. The likely result of which may harm Joe Biden's political possibilities.

bottom line
Bu their actions:
The democrats may have done more to destroy Joe Biden's campaign than Trump ever could.

Irony.

Maybe, just maybe, this impeachment had more to do about the preservation of your nations security than any one person...
Maybe , just maybe Pelosi was operating for purely patriotic reasons. Her duty to the American people being considerably more important than mere politics.
Maybe one day you and others like you will realise just how important the attempt to impeach even though it failed is to the future of the USA.

...and besides , don't you think that the democrats were well aware that Bidden would become a target of a malicious and morally bankrupt president once he announced his candidacy for 2020 elections?

What do you think the Democrats had planned now that Trump has been focused on Bidden?
You probably think that they are as stupid as Trump is...

What do you think Trump is going to do when the actual name of the dem candidate for the Nov. run is published?
You do realise that Trump can not help himself don't you...?

 

[parmalee]

Lets see... The executive office asking for an investigation?

Vs. A person with a mobster for a father destroying gov property?

???

This is just idiotic bs--what is with these people?

On Fred Trump:

In early 1954, President Dwight D. Eisenhower and other federal leaders began denouncing real-estate profiteers. On June 11, The New York Times included Trump on a list of 35 city builders accused of profiteering from government contracts.[42] He and others were investigated by a U.S. Senate Banking committee for windfall gains. Trump and his partner William Tomasello (who previously had mafia ties)[43] were cited as examples of how profits were made by builders using the Federal Housing Administration (FHA). ...

In 1966, Trump was again investigated for windfall profiteering, this time by New York's State Investigation Commission. After Trump overestimated building costs sponsored by a state program, he profited $598,000 on equipment rentals in the construction of Trump Village, which was then spent on other projects. ...

Minority applicants turned away from renting apartments complained to the New York City Commission on Human Rights and the Urban League, leading the League and other groups to send test applicants to Trump-owned complexes in July 1972. They concluded that whites were offered apartments, while blacks were generally steered away. Both of the aforementioned advocacy organizations then raised the issue with the Justice Department.[53] In October 1973, the Civil Rights Division of the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) filed a civil rights suit against the Trump Organization (Fred Trump, chair, and Donald Trump, president) for infringing the Fair Housing Act of 1968.[53] In response, Trump attorney Roy Cohn countersued for $100 million by implicating the DOJ for allegedly false accusations.[53]

Court records showed that four landlords or rental agents confirmed that applications sent to the Trump organization's head office for approval denoted the race of the applicant.[54] A rental agent said that Fred Trump had instructed him "not to rent to blacks" and to "decrease the number of black tenants by encouraging them to locate housing elsewhere."[54] A consent decree between the DOJ and the Trump Organization was signed on June 10, 1975, with both sides claiming victory—the Trump Organization for its perceived ability to continue denying rentals to welfare recipients, and the head of DOJ's housing division for the decree being "one of the most far-reaching ever negotiated."[53][54] It personally and corporately prohibited the Trumps from "discriminating against any person in the ... sale or rental of a dwelling," and "required Trump to advertise vacancies in minority papers, promote minorities to professional jobs, and list vacancies on a preferential basis".[54] Finally, it ordered the Trumps to "thoroughly acquaint themselves personally on a detailed basis with ... the Fair Housing Act of 1968."[53][55]

In early 1976, Trump was ordered by a county judge to correct code violations in a 504-unit property in Seat Pleasant, Maryland. According to the county's housing department investigator, violations included broken windows, dilapidated gutters, and missing fire extinguishers. After a court date and a series of phone calls with Trump, he was invited to the property to meet with county officials in September 1976 and arrested on site.[57] Trump was released on $1,000 bail.[56]

And coming from Wikipedia, that just scratches the surface. Moreover:

In October 2018, The New York Times published an exposé drawing on more than 100,000 pages of tax returns and financial records from Trump's businesses, and interviews with former advisers and employees. The Times concluded that his son Donald "was a millionaire by age 8,"[63] and that he had received $413 million (adjusted for inflation) from Fred's business empire over his lifetime.[64] According to the Times, the elder Trump loaned at least $60 million to his son, who largely failed to reimburse him.[63] The paper also described a number of purportedly fraudulent tax schemes, for example when Trump sold shares in Trump Palace condos to his son well below their purchase price, thus masking what could be considered a hidden donation, and benefiting from a tax write-off.[64] Donald Trump's lawyer denied the allegations of fraud and tax evasion.[65]

So, contrary to Fred's fuckwit son's repeated claims, he clearly did not start out with a "small loan of million dollars." It was more like a few hundred million, it was in no sense a "loan" and it certainly was not "small." Five decades on, and Trump has essentially made NO money, at all. And Donald's mobster ties have been thoroughly documented as well, though clearly expunged from Wikipedia's pages, to no one's surprise.[/I]

 

[sculptor]

... the democrats were well aware that Bidden would become a target
?

ok
So you think that Biden's fellow democrats had it in for him?

 

[Quantum Quack]

ok
So you think that Biden's fellow democrats had it in for him?

No.... they including Biden are totally committed to the removal of Trump from office and if that means using a decoy such as Biden to draw Trumps vitriol and reveal trumps re-election strategy then so be it.

Now that they have got the Repub. fully signed on to Trumps presidency, with the expected acquittal, they will probably be able to take out most of the Republican party with him...

 

[Beaconator]

???

This is just idiotic bs--what is with these people?

On Fred Trump:


And coming from Wikipedia, that just scratches the surface. Moreover:


So, contrary to Fred's fuckwit son's repeated claims, he clearly did not start out with a "small loan of million dollars." It was more like a few hundred million, it was in no sense a "loan" and it certainly was not "small." Five decades on, and Trump has essentially made NO money, at all. And Donald's mobster ties have been thoroughly documented as well, though clearly expunged from Wikipedia's pages, to no one's surprise.[/I]

Really? Arrested for a broken window and a falacious claim leading to a successful counter suit?

Hardly convincing evidence of bad character. Much less even though he was arrested seems like a bs arrest.

 

[parmalee]

Really? Arrested for a broken window and a falacious claim leading to a successful counter suit?

Hardly convincing evidence of bad character. Much less even though he was arrested seems like a bs arrest.

So you took in nothing about the mafia ties, the fraud, the overtly racist--and illegal--renting practices, the tax fraud and evasion, etc.?

You're an idiot--why not just give it up now?

 

[Beaconator]

So you took in nothing about the mafia ties, the fraud, the overtly racist--and illegal--renting practices, the tax fraud and evasion, etc.?

You're an idiot--why not just give it up now?

You said they were all erased from wikipedia.

So you have no evidence. Therefore I am compelled to not believe you because if I do I am taking a stranger at their word.

Your articles aren't sourced and the reason for the arrest seems fallacious.

 

[parmalee]

You said they were all erased from wikipedia.

I said no such thing. What I did say is that the Wiki article on Fred just scratches the surface, and the mob ties WRT Donald Trump have been removed from Wiki, but are easily found elsewhere. But --

Your articles aren't sourced and the reason for the arrest seems fallacious.

-- as you are apparently incapable of reading even a simple, straightforward Wiki article, which is extensively sourced, I see no point in continuing to address an illiterate clown.

 

[Beaconator]

I said no such thing. What I did say is that the Wiki article on Fred just scratches the surface, and the mob ties WRT Donald Trump have been removed from Wiki, but are easily found elsewhere. But --



-- as you are apparently incapable of reading even a simple, straightforward Wiki article, which is extensively sourced, I see no point in continuing to address an illiterate clown.

Actually I just visited the wikipedia article on Fred Trump and found all of your statements to be completely unfounded.

 

[parmalee]

Actually I just visited the wikipedia article on Fred Trump and found all of your statements to be completely unfounded.

So you dispute all of these sources:

Blair, Gwenda (2015) [2000]. The Trumps: Three Generations of Builders and a Presidential Candidate. New York City: Simon & Schuster. ISBN978-1501139369.

"La Cosa Nostra". GlobalSecurity.org. Retrieved April 24, 2019.

"Hearings Before the Committee on Banking and Currency" (PDF). The Washington Post. United States Senate: Eighty-Third Congress. July 20, 1954. Retrieved August 19, 2018.

1. Kranish, Michael; O’Harrow, Robert Jr. (January 23, 2016). "Inside the Government's Racial Bias Case Against Donald Trump's Company, and How He Fought It". The Washington Post. Retrieved January 29, 2017.
2. ^ Jump up to:a b c d Barrett, Wayne (January 15, 1979). "Like Father, Like Son: Anatomy of a Young Power Broker". The Village Voice. Retrieved January 29, 2017.
3. ^ United States of America vs. Fred C. Trump and Trump Management, Inc.(East District of New York Court October 15, 1973). Text
4. ^ Jump up to:a b DeYoung, Karen (September 30, 1976). "N.Y. Owner of P.G. Units Seized in Code Violations" (PDF). The Washington Post.

1. Barstow, David; Craig, Susanne; Buettner, Russ (October 2, 2018). "11 Takeaways From The Times's Investigation Into Trump's Wealth". The New York Times. Retrieved October 3, 2018.
2. ^ Jump up to:a b Barstow, David; Craig, Susanne; Buettner, Russ (October 2, 2018). "Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father". The New York Times. Retrieved October 2, 2018.
3. ^ Campbell, Jon; Spector, Joseph (October 3, 2018). "New York could levy hefty penalties if Trump tax fraud is proven". USA Today. Retrieved October 5, 2018.

Well, have at it then. Show us how all of these sources are incorrect.

---

On second thought, I notice that you haven't posted one single source for any of the bullshit you spew. Nor have you yet demonstrated that you can even comprehend anything that has been written here. Why do you even bother? Mightn't your time be better spent... Nevermind.

 

[sculptor]

No.... they[democrats] including Biden are totally committed to the removal of Trump from office ...

gee, what a pity
Had they been more interested in doing the jobs for which they were elected instead of concentrating on an attempt at a palace coup, we might have a polity that works better for all citizens.

Meanwhile, during the impeachment charade, Trump's approval ratings went up, while the democrats' ratings went down.
One helluva gamble, and very poorly played. (all bluff and bluster and little of substance)

The electorate has the power to install and/or remove a resident---and that is how it should be.
Petty partisan politics has no place in a republic of united states.

........................
QQ have you ever read our constitution?

 

[CptBork]

gee, what a pity
Had they been more interested in doing the jobs for which they were elected instead of concentrating on an attempt at a palace coup, we might have a polity that works better for all citizens.

Meanwhile, during the impeachment charade, Trump's approval ratings went up, while the democrats' ratings went down.
One helluva gamble, and very poorly played. (all bluff and bluster and little of substance)

The electorate has the power to install and/or remove a resident---and that is how it should be.
Petty partisan politics has no place in a republic of united states.

........................
QQ have you ever read our constitution?

Ok are you still going to pretend to have liberal leanings? Even by Fox standards you're not cut from that cloth. When the House of Congress pursues its legal constitutional right to impeach a president for breaking a law that even most Republicans agree was broken, that's a palace coup? Ok then, when the president abuses his authority and endangers a foreign ally in order to manufacture or dig up dirt on his personal opponent, instead of doing the job he was allegedly elected for, what kind of palace politics do you call that?

 

[(Q)]

QQ have you ever read our constitution?

From the Republican side, it appears the only one who has read the Constitution is Mitt Romney.

 

[sculptor]

... dig up dirt on his personal opponent, ...

OK
You think there was dirt(corruption) to dig up?
Personally: I do not know whether or not an investigation into barisma holdings would vindicate Hunter Biden.

It seems that corruption is not uncommon in government.
I see no valid reason to attempt to hide it.
.........................

 

[CptBork]

You think there was dirt(corruption) to dig up?

There might be dirt, there might not. Do you believe it's legal and appropriate for a US president to use state authority and endanger an ally's security in order to seek dirt on his/her political opponents for partisan purposes? I always thought it should be left to American voters to decide what's in their own democratic interests as opposed to whoever won the previous election, do you not agree?

 

[sculptor]

There might be dirt, there might not.

amen to that

... I always thought it should be left to American voters to decide what's in their own democratic interests as opposed to whoever won the previous election, do you not agree?

Yeh, well, that is a pretty good ideal!

Unfortunately, that ain't the way it works.
I ain't even sure that it can work that way.

Imagine if the government had to have a plebiscite before commiting a single soldier to a posting.

................................
If you could vote as to whether or not an investigation should be conducted: How would you vote?

 

[CptBork]

amen to that

Yeh, well, that is a pretty good ideal!

Unfortunately, that ain't the way it works.
I ain't even sure that it can work that way.

Imagine if the government had to have a plebiscite before commiting a single soldier to a posting.

According to Alan Dershowitz and the rest of Trump's defense team, a president abusing his authority to harm political opponents actually serves the interests of the American people. The Republican Senate voted to acquit him on this basis, not on the basis that the events in question never happened. Your take?

If you could vote as to whether or not an investigation should be conducted: How would you vote?

Obviously I'm not American, and I don't hold any pretensions that my vote counts for diddly squat there. Nonetheless if I was given a vote on it, I would vote both to investigate Hunter Biden for any potential wrongdoing, and also to conduct a proper trial with regards to the obvious wrongdoings of Mr. Trump. You say elected officials should be enabled to do their jobs, so let the American legal system perform the tasks for which it was originally created by elected officials.

 

[(Q)]

OK
You think there was dirt(corruption) to dig up?
Personally: I do not know whether or not an investigation into barisma holdings would vindicate Hunter Biden.

Vindicate him from what exactly?

It seems that corruption is not uncommon in government.
I see no valid reason to attempt to hide it.
.........................

More so in the current government far beyond anything we could have imagined. It will probably get far worse now that Trump can commit any crime he wants.

 

[Quantum Quack]

gee, what a pity
Had they been more interested in doing the jobs for which they were elected instead of concentrating on an attempt at a palace coup, we might have a polity that works better for all citizens.

Meanwhile, during the impeachment charade, Trump's approval ratings went up, while the democrats' ratings went down.
One helluva gamble, and very poorly played. (all bluff and bluster and little of substance)

The electorate has the power to install and/or remove a resident---and that is how it should be.
Petty partisan politics has no place in a republic of united states.

........................
QQ have you ever read our constitution?

Pelosi may have torn up Trumps speech but the Republicans have torn up the constitution.
Because the Repubs tore up the constitution Pelosi could not have committed a crime... lol

elementary my dear Watson!

 

[Quantum Quack]

More so in the current government far beyond anything we could have imagined. It will probably get far worse now that Trump can commit any crime he wants.

it wont take long! Trumps record is about one impulsive outrageous decision every 5-7 days. So any time now there will be another major international incident to deal with.