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So Kittamaru's fear is misplaced. What s/he should fear is the child who comes here looking to learn some science and learns something wrong from one of our resident crackpots. That would be a tragedy. It has almost certainly already happened numerous times.
can you post 1 or 2 examples of this?

actually i'm curious as to what you consider "crackpot".
 
Kittamaru appears to me to be under the false impression that such a situation exists here. For that to be true, it would require that at least one of our resident crackpots be a budding Einstein. I say again: no real science has ever happened in such a forum. And I'll elaborate: no budding Einstein would ever show up in a place like this.

100% dinky di spot on Russ.
I don't know if you have ever been to "Cosmoquest" but there system, let's the Alternative hypothesis pushers, put there stuff, with the proviso of answering all questions.
If this isn't done satisfactorily.....The thread is closed after 1 month.
A great system, and is needed here.
 


I love point 20...It really cracked me up....

20: 20 points for emailing me and complaining about the crackpot index. (E.g., saying that it "suppresses original thinkers" or saying that I misspelled "Einstein" in item 8.)


:D

oh, and these three....

34: 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.

35: 40 points for comparing yourself to Galileo, suggesting that a modern-day Inquisition is hard at work on your case, and so on.

36: 40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant
 
Apologies, the most releveant point

37: 50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions.
 
i was thinking along the lines of an actual discussion here on the forums.

Here is one example of anti-science crackpottery but there are literally hundreds of such examples on the forum:

evolution, as an account for lifes diversity?
there is none.
the only real evidence in this regard is the fossil record and the fossil record doesn't support it either.
 
Here is one example of anti-science crackpottery but there are literally hundreds of such examples on the forum:
i suppose lewin lied about THAT as well.
this stuff was printed in a well respected source origin.
oh wait, he lied about everything printed in that piece, right?
get a grip origin.

BTW, i noticed you didn't mention WHY i said what you quoted.
what's up? "respected source" scare you?
 
i suppose lewin lied about THAT as well.
this stuff was printed in a well respected source origin.
oh wait, he lied about everything printed in that piece, right?
get a grip origin.

BTW, i noticed you didn't mention WHY i said what you quoted.
what's up? "respected source" scare you?
It was just an example, not a continuation of the debate: this isn't the place to continue the debate.

Another potential reasons people have for why crackpottery should be allowed is the potential to reform them. But that virtually never happens: crackpottery is a religion and believers can't have their minds changed by anyone but themselves. A forum's time and effort is better spent on people who actually want help.
 
Every time I read the title to this thread
I think
"Gee, you seem to be missing a 'g'."

I have plenty to spare.
May I offer you one or some?
g
g g g g g
 
It was just an example, not a continuation of the debate: this isn't the place to continue the debate.

Another potential reasons people have for why crackpottery should be allowed is the potential to reform them.
i don't know.
kwil believed in telepathy over 1000s of miles.
he apparently devoted a large amount of his time to it.
do you really think someone like that can be reformed?
"close proximity" telepathy might be possible, but 1000s of miles???
But that virtually never happens: crackpottery is a religion and believers can't have their minds changed by anyone but themselves.
all you can do is keep throwing stuff out there and hope one of them bangs their gong.
A forum's time and effort is better spent on people who actually want help.
this is especially true in the science sections of the board.
 
Who knows Paddoboy... the next great idea could be locked up inside the brain of someone who is constantly being told they are wrong or stupid or being taught not to speak unless spoken to... how sad would that be?

You mean, you have faith in me?


(Was also thinking of watching the first Harry Potter movie.)
 
leopold:

Are you pedalling that Lewin article from 1980 in this thread as well?

Is your entire understanding of evolution based on one article from a non-expert about a conference of biologists dating back to 1980?
 
leopold:

Are you pedalling that Lewin article from 1980 in this thread as well?

Is your entire understanding of evolution based on one article from a non-expert about a conference of biologists dating back to 1980?

Grasping at straws????
:)
 
leopold:

Are you pedalling that Lewin article from 1980 in this thread as well?
origin brought it up.

Is your entire understanding of evolution based on one article . . .
no.
. . . from a non-expert . . .
i think you can say lewin was a professional science writer.
respected sources published his stuff.
i also believe lewin knew science very well.
. . . about a conference of biologists dating back to 1980?
the conference included paleontologists and geologists as well, among others.
 
OK. Here's a suggestion to make the forum more successful.

Allow members to post threads and or make posts in cesspool. :)


Venting of frustration would be good and keep it out of a science (or whatever) discussion.
 
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