Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged

Not that I have any need to defend Christians, I just don't like generalizations.




This is certainly deplorable.

But we should be diligent to run this through the "squeaky wheel gets the oil" filter of mass media.

Every group falls on a Bell curve of behavior. In any group, the 99% of normal people do not make for good news. The news is in the 1% that go crazy.

It would folly to judge all Christians by the behaviour of their most extreme members, as much as it would be folly to judge, say, all redheads by their most extreme members.
Quite. We should also not forget it is a Christian bishop who gave Trump and his acolytes this unwelcome advice, taken straight from the teaching of Christ in the New Testament.

In the OP to this thread, as so often on these forums, I see a view of "Christianity" that seems exclusively informed by the US redneck Protestant Bible Belt version of the religion. This is highly unrepresentative of Christianity worldwide. The bishop is Episcopalian and as such within mainstream Christianity, which these Trumpy self-appointed Baptist ministers in the Bible Belt are not.
 
Зачем мне Вас обманывать? Я несколько раз попробовала, у меня не получилось.
You do you not even need to go to Google translate. If you hold down on the sentence and select like you were going to paste, the option of "translate" come in the menu bar and it takes you directly to a translate site and does it automatically.
 
Зачем мне Вас обманывать? Я несколько раз попробовала, у меня не получилось.
I have a Russian YouTuber friend who switches between Russian and English depending on who is posting. It is not issue for her and I don't think she has some super high tech software (judging her site)
She is ok to do that though, it is her site to manage.
Here it is English.
Ask a friend, ask Copilot, ask Google.
 
Maybe access to translation services is not so easy in Russia... (?)
Got a friend in Moscow and it's no issue, her kit is pretty basic.
Plus Physics Forum is American and has global members who can all translate text then post.
 
I have a Russian YouTuber friend who switches between Russian and English depending on who is posting. It is not issue for her and I don't think she has some super high tech software (judging her site)
She is ok to do that though, it is her site to manage.
Here it is English.
Ask a friend, ask Copilot, ask Google.
Спрошу, когда из дома выйду. Третий день уже с температурой валяюсь.
Ваша подруга ютубер сейчас вряд ли сможет пользоваться Ютубом как раньше. Он отлично работал у нас до того времени, как РКН начал его замедлять. Сейчас скорость настолько низкая, что пользоваться стало практически невозможно. Если только она пользуется VPN, но его тоже собираются запретить, и работает он с переменным успехом.
 
Спрошу, когда из дома выйду. Третий день уже с температурой валяюсь.
Ваша подруга ютубер сейчас вряд ли сможет пользоваться Ютубом как раньше. Он отлично работал у нас до того времени, как РКН начал его замедлять. Сейчас скорость настолько низкая, что пользоваться стало практически невозможно. Если только она пользуется VPN, но его тоже собираются запретить, и работает он с переменным успехом.
Ok I will check it out with her.
 
Quite. We should also not forget it is a Christian bishop who gave Trump and his acolytes this unwelcome advice, taken straight from the teaching of Christ in the New Testament.

In the OP to this thread, as so often on these forums, I see a view of "Christianity" that seems exclusively informed by the US redneck Protestant Bible Belt version of the religion. This is highly unrepresentative of Christianity worldwide. The bishop is Episcopalian and as such within mainstream Christianity, which these Trumpy self-appointed Baptist ministers in the Bible Belt are not.
Exactly, it is the age of Elmer Gantry, the fast talking, hard drinking, charismatic grifters who have taken over the Bible Belt, preaching a whole lot of politics and not a whole lot of Jesus.
 
This will disrupt threads. I find it difficult to believe you cannot find a way of posting in English.
Not only that, but if folks from multiple languages started posting here in their language, are we to sit here translating everything for them?
 
Exactly, it is the age of Elmer Gantry, the fast talking, hard drinking, charismatic grifters who have taken over the Bible Belt, preaching a whole lot of politics and not a whole lot of Jesus.
Ah yes, Elmer Gantry, an icon for our times! :)
 
Yes. You can start a thread about judging another group?
Not necessary.

Christians are free to live their way of life same KKK members or Black Kives Matter group. No matter political, social or entertainment affiliations, what the rule in society is expected is no other but tolerance, no acceptance is mandatory.

Christian men might treat women differently than others in society, well, if their women are fine with that, then such is not a social issue, no need to intervene with that. A different scenario should be if Cristians pretend for everybody to do the same as they do with respect of treating women.

Same applies with other groups in society.

Diversity doesn't mean everybody to think and live the same, but on the contrary, everybody lives their way of live in harmony (tolerance) with the rest.
 
Christian men might treat women differently than others in society,
Some Christian men do bad things too, some of them lobby parliament to squeeze laws in that the rest of us do not like.
Women too.
The way you act is up to you but when you try and force your so called Christian values on the society you live in, via changes in the law, that is not good.
You would probably judge a Muslim community for separating men and women, or prohibiting the sale of alcohol, or violence for the satirising of their religion, in your secular country right?
So would I, religion in my opinion should be kept away from the law, school and Education, the house of Lords (in the UK)
Luckily you have the first amendment, do you value that?
 
Not necessary.

Christians are free to live their way of life same KKK members or Black Kives Matter group. No matter political, social or entertainment affiliations, what the rule in society is expected is no other but tolerance, no acceptance is mandatory.

Christian men might treat women differently than others in society, well, if their women are fine with that, then such is not a social issue, no need to intervene with that. A different scenario should be if Cristians pretend for everybody to do the same as they do with respect of treating women.

Same applies with other groups in society.

Diversity doesn't mean everybody to think and live the same, but on the contrary, everybody lives their way of live in harmony (tolerance) with the rest.
Nice to see a post here supporting Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI). :)
 
Some Christian men do bad things too, some of them lobby parliament to squeeze laws in that the rest of us do not like.
Women too.
The way you act is up to you but when you try and force your so called Christian values on the society you live in, via changes in the law, that is not good.
You would probably judge a Muslim community for separating men and women, or prohibiting the sale of alcohol, or violence for the satirising of their religion, in your secular country right?
So would I, religion in my opinion should be kept away from the law, school and Education, the house of Lords (in the UK)
Luckily you have the first amendment, do you value that?
Everybody does bad things.

Let's check how is when the government is based on the biblical religion, in those times based on the Torah.

In ancient Israel a dude rapes a woman, the penalty for him is to marry the woman and have her as her wife.

Today, when a dude rapes a woman, he is sent to jail.

What is the difference between the two cultures?

In ancient Israel people learned the laws of their god. Their culture was based on those regalements and became customs. But such was not a guarantee that people won't do bad things. This dude made a mistake, he left his sexual desire overcoming his behavior and he took the woman. According to the custom, when a man takes a woman with mutual consent, both became one flesh. This custom was "extended" in cases of rape, when the dude took the woman without her consent, they were one flesh anyway.

This is also appreciated when an Apostol wrote that young guys really don't know what they are doing when the have sex with prostitutes, because by doing so they and their prostitute became one flesh.

For you, under our culture such sounds weird, but such was what it was in former eras. Until the 50's or 60's such was a rule in many countries, when the boyfriend was found to have sex with his girl and she got pregnant, the parents demanded restitution, and the dude was to get married even by force. It was a different era.

You can see that living religion is different that just being a religious person, and many criticize religion without knowing what really means to follow a religious doctrine. No university, no degrees, nothing like that will make you understand religion unless you practice and live the experience.

If Muslims are doing "wrong" for you, such doesn't mean that they really are doing bad things, because they live their religion while you... you just talk trash all the time... ha ha ha ha (joking, you know that)
 
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