None. They all die at the hands of invaders who manipulate them. Why else would societies that were stable for 800 years under the Ottomans fall apart in 60 years?
The kingdoms of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, the dictators of Iran and Iraq, the destabilisation of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, all at the hands of western imperialism. Destroyed the societies, stripped the people of self rule, destroyed economy and educational systems and killed millions.
And its the Arab mindset that worries them?
None. They all die at the hands of invaders who manipulate them. Why else would societies that were stable for 800 years under the Ottomans fall apart in 60 years?
The kingdoms of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, the dictators of Iran and Iraq, the destabilisation of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, all at the hands of western imperialism. Destroyed the societies, stripped the people of self rule, destroyed economy and educational systems and killed millions.
And its the Arab mindset that worries them?
At least we aren't wiping our ass with our bare hands.
In the millet system, it was irrelevant, much like sectarian violence in India.
let me get this straight: Islam is great... because they wash their ass properly :bugeye:
Huh? Are you saying that sectarian violence in India is ...okay, acceptable, ...as long as it's not been a manipulation of western cultures???
Baron Max
No, according to Buffalo, Americans are great because they don't.
Give me some examples of the Iraq type of sectarian war in the years before American intervention. The last one I can remember is the invasion by Temur.
I'm just baffled in general on how one wipes their ass means anything about everything else.
Not at all. Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia have not invaded anyone for 1000 years.
Maybe. But they still killed each other in huge numbers just the same! And killed far, far more of each other than westerners have ever killed.
Baron Max
Not really, they didn't even have armies until the 1920s
So, .....only armies can kill people????????
Baron Max
It's called "civilization". Now do you understand?
Baron Max
So who exactly are you referring to?
What, some civilizations wipe there ass with there hands, what of it? Seriously! if you want to complain that they are tribal and violent, by all means, but they wipe their ass funny, that something to complain about? Come now what are you smoking?!?