Islam vs. the Western World: off-topic posts from a Religion thread

Hmm, my last experience with nappy changing is too long ago to remember but I don't recall it going beyond the cotton and water stage. :eek:
 
S.A.M. said:
None. They all die at the hands of invaders who manipulate them. Why else would societies that were stable for 800 years under the Ottomans fall apart in 60 years?

The kingdoms of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, the dictators of Iran and Iraq, the destabilisation of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, all at the hands of western imperialism. Destroyed the societies, stripped the people of self rule, destroyed economy and educational systems and killed millions.

And its the Arab mindset that worries them?
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Bullshit. a.) dictators suck worse than imperialism,
b.) you dont know what imperialism is
C.) WE MADE YOUR ECONOMIES
D. there is no palestine, there never was.
 
S.A.M. said:
None. They all die at the hands of invaders who manipulate them. Why else would societies that were stable for 800 years under the Ottomans fall apart in 60 years?

The kingdoms of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, the dictators of Iran and Iraq, the destabilisation of Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, all at the hands of western imperialism. Destroyed the societies, stripped the people of self rule, destroyed economy and educational systems and killed millions.

And its the Arab mindset that worries them?
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Are you saying that sectarian violence was never a problem before the twentieth century?
 
In the millet system, it was irrelevant, much like sectarian violence in India.
 
S.A.M. said:
In the millet system, it was irrelevant, much like sectarian violence in India.
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Huh? Are you saying that sectarian violence in India is ...okay, acceptable, ...as long as it's not been a manipulation of western cultures???

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
Huh? Are you saying that sectarian violence in India is ...okay, acceptable, ...as long as it's not been a manipulation of western cultures???

Baron Max
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Give me some examples of the Iraq type of sectarian war in the years before American intervention.
 
S.A.M. said:
Give me some examples of the Iraq type of sectarian war in the years before American intervention. The last one I can remember is the invasion by Temur.
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SAM, that area of the world has been in conflict since the beginning of time!! There have been wars and violence in the Middle East forever ....it's the nature of "those people" to fight amongst themselves as well as with others.

And, just so you know, I'll tell you again .....there have been far, far more Iraqis killed by other Iraqis than all have been killed by westerners in all of history! Ditto for the Afghanis!

Baron Max
 
Not at all. Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia have not invaded anyone for 1000 years.
 
S.A.M. said:
Not at all. Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia have not invaded anyone for 1000 years.
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Maybe. But they still killed each other in huge numbers just the same! And killed far, far more of each other than westerners have ever killed.

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
Maybe. But they still killed each other in huge numbers just the same! And killed far, far more of each other than westerners have ever killed.

Baron Max
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Not really, they didn't even have armies until the 1920s
 
Baron Max said:
It's called "civilization". Now do you understand?

Baron Max
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What, some civilizations wipe there ass with there hands, what of it? Seriously! if you want to complain that they are tribal and violent, by all means, but they wipe their ass funny, that something to complain about? Come now what are you smoking?!?
 
S.A.M. said:
So who exactly are you referring to?
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“ Originally Posted by S.A.M.
Not at all. Saudi Arabia, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Tunisia have not invaded anyone for 1000 years. ”

Maybe. But they still killed each other in huge numbers just the same! And killed far, far more of each other than westerners have ever killed.

Baron Max

See, SAM, all you had to do was read the post to know.
 
ElectricFetus said:
What, some civilizations wipe there ass with there hands, what of it? Seriously! if you want to complain that they are tribal and violent, by all means, but they wipe their ass funny, that something to complain about? Come now what are you smoking?!?
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Do you have even the slightest idea of the diseases associated with human shit? IF not, check it out BEFORE you post a reply.

You might also check out the thread on such things as shitting in India as a good source of info on shit! It's up above in one of the other forums ....check it out ...and see that thousands of Indian kids die EVERY DAY of such shit diseases.

Baron Max
 
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