Honey

timojin said:
Pardon what is ACV . I have honey every day in the last 4 months I feel ok
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Note from the Linguistics Moderator:

According to the dictionary, the abbreviation "ACV" can stand for "actual cash value" or "air cushion vehicle."

I have no idea what Orinda is referring to.
 
timojin said:
Pardon what is ACV . I have honey every day in the last 4 months I feel ok
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Fraggle Rocker said:
Note from the Linguistics Moderator:

According to the dictionary, the abbreviation "ACV" can stand for "actual cash value" or "air cushion vehicle."

I have no idea what Orinda is referring to.
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I'm going to assume by ACV he meant Apple Cider Vinegar.

http://www.simpleorganiclife.org/acv-honey-empty-stomach-1796295877.html

Supposedly great for a number of reasons... but most of the "instructions" on this "miracle tincture" seem to have a similar premise:

  • My intense heart burn was seriously relieved.
  • My frequent stomach ailments, constipation, and diarrhea were relived.
  • I lost weight.
  • I had more energy through the day.
  • I no longer had bad breath in the morning (kind of an unexpected result)
  1. First thing upon waking in the morning, mix one cup of hot water, a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar (or a tablespoon if you can handle the flavor) and one teaspoon of raw organic unfiltered honey.
  2. Mix well and allow to steep.
  3. After a few minutes, drink. Don't slam it. Sip it like you would a tea.
  4. After drinking, drink 24 ounces of water slowly over the course of a half hour.
  5. After you've drank the water, have breakfast and carry on like normal.
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My best guess is that it isn't so much the Honey and Vinegar that is helping with all the issues... but rather the added intake of water. Yes, real natural raw honey is somewhat antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory in nature, as is Apple Cider Vinegar... but I would think being a bit dehydrated (and then resolving that issue) would do far more to improve your wellness.

Now, the Vinegar may be helping with the heartburn if the issue is one of low acidity... but a tablespoon doesn't seem like enough to have a profound effect?
 
I take a tsp of honey with lemon on an empty stomach for as long as I can remember. It definitely boost my immune system and reduced my bloating.
 
Kittamaru said:
I'm going to assume by ACV he meant Apple Cider Vinegar.

http://www.simpleorganiclife.org/acv-honey-empty-stomach-1796295877.html

Supposedly great for a number of reasons... but most of the "instructions" on this "miracle tincture" seem to have a similar premise:

My best guess is that it isn't so much the Honey and Vinegar that is helping with all the issues... but rather the added intake of water. Yes, real natural raw honey is somewhat antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory in nature, as is Apple Cider Vinegar... but I would think being a bit dehydrated (and then resolving that issue) would do far more to improve your wellness.

Now, the Vinegar may be helping with the heartburn if the issue is one of low acidity... but a tablespoon doesn't seem like enough to have a profound effect?
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Going back 50 years my father when had a hartburn , He used a halve glass of water dissolved a tablespoon of bicarb then added one tablespoon of vinegar , and he drinked it and it solved his problem
 
timojin said:
Going back 50 years my father when had a hartburn , He used a halve glass of water dissolved a tablespoon of bicarb then added one tablespoon of vinegar , and he drinked it and it solved his problem
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That is a weird thing to do. Bicarb is a base and vinegar is an acid. Maybe he just liked burping up CO2?
 
origin said:
That is a weird thing to do. Bicarb is a base and vinegar is an acid. Maybe he just liked burping up CO2?
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I feel don't argue with success. It worked for him it works for me , It may be a placebo, He died at 89 years old so apparently is not harmfull.
 
timojin said:
I feel don't argue with success. It worked for him it works for me , It may be a placebo, He died at 89 years old so apparently is not harmfull.
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Heartburn is from stomache acid refluxing into the esophagus causing inflamation, so taking bicarb is definitely NOT a placebo. The bicarb will neutrilize the acid in the esophagus relieving the inflamation. Taking vinegar, which is an acid makes no sense at all. Stick with the bicarb and skip the vinegar.
 
origin said:
Heartburn is from stomache acid refluxing into the esophagus causing inflamation, so taking bicarb is definitely NOT a placebo. The bicarb will neutrilize the acid in the esophagus relieving the inflamation. Taking vinegar, which is an acid makes no sense at all. Stick with the bicarb and skip the vinegar.
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Let start this way the acidity in the stomach is about 0.1 PH Acetates buffer at about PH 4.0 So then the acetate will to some extent rise the PH in the stomach, depending on the amount of acetate,. and that might relieve some discomfort .
 
timojin said:
Let start this way the acidity in the stomach is about 0.1 PH Acetates buffer at about PH 4.0 So then the acetate will to some extent rise the PH in the stomach, depending on the amount of acetate,. and that might relieve some discomfort .
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If you want to drink vinegar for heartburn, go right ahead.
 
origin said:
If you want to drink vinegar for heartburn, go right ahead.
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Actually, it makes a certain amount of sense - I have been reading more and more that many people who suffer heartburn are doing so because of their stomach acid not being potent enough, and thus it takes longer for food to digest and pass through to the intestines; when the lower esophageal sphincter relaxes, boom, heartburn.

Typical antacids would only exacerbate this, though they would provide temporary relief (of the esophagus itself).
 
Kittamaru said:
Actually, it makes a certain amount of sense - I have been reading more and more that many people who suffer heartburn are doing so because of their stomach acid not being potent enough, and thus it takes longer for food to digest and pass through to the intestines; when the lower esophageal sphincter relaxes, boom, heartburn.

Typical antacids would only exacerbate this, though they would provide temporary relief (of the esophagus itself).
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Like I said if you want to drink vinegar for heartburn, go ahead, I will stick with taking a base (bicarb) and enjoy the almost instant relief.
 
origin said:
Like I said if you want to drink vinegar for heartburn, go ahead, I will stick with taking a base (bicarb) and enjoy the almost instant relief.
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Oh, I'm not questioning the efficacy of bicarbonate - indeed, it will provide near instant relief the majority of the time.
The issue comes when the heartburn / reflux becomes constant, especially after eating a meal (even without normal "trigger" foods) - a lot of times, people are prescribed things like a proton pump inhibitor or other more powerful acid reducers. I'm not sure how many GP's are equipped to test stomach acidity; I would ask for a referral to a gastroenterologist to have that sort of thing checked out.

In my case, it was a combination of factors, stemming mostly from Eosinophilic Esophagitis and Esophageal Acid Reflux caused by premature relaxing of the lower Esophageal Sphincter. It caused my esophagus to become ribbed (like corrugated tubing) rather than smooth, which resulted in a host of problems.

The ironic solution for me was to increase my stomach acidity (so food didn't take quite as long to digest), combined with a mild PPI that has a secondary use in treating EE. It's so nice to be able to eat normally without fear of debilitating chest pains or food getting stuck!

Ultimately, it comes down to "if it works for you, it works" - after all, everybody is different :)
 
Kittamaru said:
Oh, I'm not questioning the efficacy of bicarbonate - indeed, it will provide near instant relief the majority of the time.
The issue comes when the heartburn / reflux becomes constant, especially after eating a meal (even without normal "trigger" foods) - a lot of times, people are prescribed things like a proton pump inhibitor or other more powerful acid reducers. I'm not sure how many GP's are equipped to test stomach acidity; I would ask for a referral to a gastroenterologist to have that sort of thing checked out.

In my case, it was a combination of factors, stemming mostly from Eosinophilic Esophagitis and Esophageal Acid Reflux caused by premature relaxing of the lower Esophageal Sphincter. It caused my esophagus to become ribbed (like corrugated tubing) rather than smooth, which resulted in a host of problems.

The ironic solution for me was to increase my stomach acidity (so food didn't take quite as long to digest), combined with a mild PPI that has a secondary use in treating EE. It's so nice to be able to eat normally without fear of debilitating chest pains or food getting stuck!

Ultimately, it comes down to "if it works for you, it works" - after all, everybody is different :)
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I wonder if a glass of orange juice will do the trick.
 
Every morning I eat one spoonful of honey for an after-sleep. Ever since childhood, my mother has taught me to do this. She said that it is good for health.
 
Torry Cox said:
Every morning I eat one spoonful of honey for an after-sleep. Ever since childhood, my mother has taught me to do this. She said that it is good for health.
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For how many years are you doing that, I am doing this with some instant coffee in the last 1 to 2 years and I feel ok,
 
origin said:
Heartburn is from stomache acid refluxing into the esophagus causing inflamation, so taking bicarb is definitely NOT a placebo. The bicarb will neutrilize the acid in the esophagus relieving the inflamation. Taking vinegar, which is an acid makes no sense at all. Stick with the bicarb and skip the vinegar.
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Is it OK to offer medical advice on Sciforums . . . . . might be some liability issues unless you can provide medical credentials for the members . . .just saying . . . rules are rules . . . Right?
 
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