Honey

A couple tablespoons of bee vomit gives me a sickly sweet taste on my tongue which I immediately want to retch out for some other creature to eat and regurgitate even further. It appeals to me about as much as a cockroach salad, and I have yet to see any medical studies showing what's so special about it compared to countless other foods. Honey was very popular back in Biblical and medieval times, and I personally wish that's where it had stayed along with some of their other barbaric delicacies.
 
CptBork said:
A couple tablespoons of bee vomit gives me a sickly sweet taste on my tongue which I immediately want to retch out for some other creature to eat and regurgitate even further. It appeals to me about as much as a cockroach salad, and I have yet to see any medical studies showing what's so special about it compared to countless other foods. Honey was very popular back in Biblical and medieval times, and I personally wish that's where it had stayed along with some of their other barbaric delicacies.
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I suppose you eat eggs and ham ?
 
timojin said:
I suppose you eat eggs and ham ?
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Heh.

Good point. If Cpt Bork is put off by bee vomit (which is one of the very few foods we eat that was not part of something previously alive), one would think he'd be all the more put off by eating anything at all that was previously alive. It's all guts and juices.

What's left? Salt, water...
What other things are edible that were not once on the inside of some living creature?
 
DaveC426913 said:
Heh.

Good point. If Cpt Bork is put off by bee vomit (which is one of the very few foods we eat that was not part of something previously alive), one would think he'd be all the more put off by eating anything at all that was previously alive. It's all guts and juices.

What's left? Salt, water...
What other things are edible that were not once on the inside of some living creature?
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The meat and egg parts don't make contact with any fecal and gastric parts, all ensured during the butchering and cleaning phases. Furthermore, those things are far more similar to what naturally occurs inside a human being as opposed to what's found inside a bee's guts and all the nasty things a bee steps in before walking all over the honey it's making. I don't personally see what honey offers in flavour or texture that can't be easily replaced by vegetarian sources that don't smell like half-rotten corpses, which is hard to say for fresh meat and dairy products.

The question was about the effects I feel from a couple of tablespoons of honey, and my answer is that I'm pissed off at anyone who uses it in their cooking under the assumption that it's universally enjoyed, when they only care to inform folks like myself after the bee puke is already gooing up our mouths, and with pseudoscientific quacks claiming without medical substantiation that it's somehow better than cane sugar or other sweeteners. I hate being presented with dessert menus where every single item is made with gobs of honey because the chef listened to advice from a bunch of health quacks, instead of using cheap and equally effective table sugar and other alternatives in at least one such item.
 
CptBork said:
I hate being presented with dessert menus where every single item is made with gobs of honey because the chef listened to advice from a bunch of health quacks, instead of using cheap and equally effective table sugar and other alternatives in at least one such item.
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Well, honey has always been a food since prehistory - it's not new.
So, no quacks are needed to promote it.
The onus lies on its opponents (i.e. you) to show how it might be unheathly. And do so in a way than is more substantive than 'it's icky'.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Well, honey has always been a food since prehistory - it's not new.
So, no quacks are needed to promote it.
The onus lies on its opponents (i.e. you) to show how it might be unheathly. And do so in a way than is more substantive than 'it's icky'.
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As I duly noted, honey in its existing form has been procured and served throughout recorded history, a true barbarian delicacy. As far as health concerns, I'm not aware of any with regards to properly pasteurized honey, and never claimed it was worse than any other high-calorie sweetener, only that it offers no proven health benefits either and should therefore not be overly emphasized over things that don't make loads of people want to retch.

I wouldn't go serving meat dishes to potential vegans without informing them of their full content first, I wouldn't use a touch of peanut butter in something and not check my guests for allergies, and I wish more barbarians understood that their love for slimy, sickly-sweet, ancient savage insect gut byproducts isn't universally shared either.
 
sideshowbob said:
No doubt we can whip up a petrochemical concoction to suit your taste. :rolleyes:
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Cane sugar can be used for alcohol fuel production, so it provides many environmental benefits in contrast to the destructive effects of bee farming. However, in its freshly-harvested form, sucrose from sugar cane isn't a petrochemical. Likewise, maple trees and corn can be used as valuable industrial energy sources, but their syrup alone is far more valuable than the sickly-sweet, primitive savage barbarian bee puke some people here still swear by. If calories are a concern, sweeteners such as sucralose, aspartame and stevia are available, none of which are made from dino or insect fossils/poop/vomit.
 
CptBork said:
*snip* in contrast to the destructive effects of bee farming. *snip*
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Uhm... you are joking, right? What "destructive effects of bee farming" are you referring to? Certainly not the continued pollination (and by extension, existence) of a large portion of our current foodcrops and other plants?
 
CptBork said:
Cane sugar can be used for alcohol fuel production, so it provides many environmental benefits in contrast to the destructive effects of bee farming. However, in its freshly-harvested form, sucrose from sugar cane isn't a petrochemical. Likewise, maple trees and corn can be used as valuable industrial energy sources, but their syrup alone is far more valuable than the sickly-sweet, primitive savage barbarian bee puke some people here still swear by. If calories are a concern, sweeteners such as sucralose, aspartame and stevia are available, none of which are made from dino or insect fossils/poop/vomit.
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If you read my post, I was referring to the flavour and texture of honey, not the sweetening effect.
 
Most of the honeys u have in store is i beleive not so healthy. Because of the added sugar. Reallyy like legit honey tho :]
 
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2 spoons honey is great in the morning on empty stomach. I know that it is bad to add honey in the hot water. Emit harmful substances
 
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