And how does that apply to Galileo?
Greatest I Am's anti-religion thread
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Magical Realist
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I'm sure he thought all other people were being irrational.
Any evidence to back that up?
Magical Realist
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It's self-evident from the assumption that you have an idea that's right that is opposed to everybody else's idea.
Nothing is self-evident. Everything requires supporting evidence.
As I've tried to tell you before, rational people don't just assume that they're right and everybody else is wrong. The first question they ask is, "Did you see that?"
Magical Realist
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Bullshit. Everybody's belief in their own idea excludes the beliefs of those who oppose it. It's common sense.
Don't project your flaws on everybody else.
A lot of people would rather learn something, admit they were wrong and become right.
Magical Realist
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That's the last thing you and your ingroup want. You only strive for the validation of your own worldview and all the beliefs that come along with it.
Again, you're just projecting your petty insecurities on everybody else. There are actually people in the world who want to learn things, not just protect the little world that they've created in their heads. That's why science exists.
Magical Realist
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No...you're a cult that worships science as body of doctrines that supports the philosophy of physicalism. That's all you are. Own it.
You say that as if it was a bad thing.
Magical Realist
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Being a cult member is a bad thing? Who would've thought?
"Cult" and "worship" are not words that I would use, but restricting ourselves to reality is what I would definitely call a good thing. Do you call science a bad thing in general? Or only when it disagrees with you?
DaveC426913
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The mistake is in generalizing to "Muslims" - as if you think merely being Muslim means they want to kill infidels.
The rational fear is of extremism. You should fear the actual criminals, not just anyone who shares some beliefs.
Ten people were killed here in Toronto - not by Muslims - but by a person who had extremist views about sexism. We are far more danger from people with extreme views about anything at all than we are by the particularly Muslim terrorists in the world.
Agreed. Extremist atheists are as bad as extremist Muslims or Christians. Indeed, you are far more likely to be killed in the US by a white supremacist terrorist than a Muslim terrorist.
That is your opinion. I doubt very much that many mothers and young girls will agree that they have an IRRATIONAL fear, of going out into crowded places in Manchester.
exchemist
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They don't, for the most part.
Have you been to Manchester? I bet you haven't. I have. Life goes on as normal, albeit with a some degree of heightened awareness of potential terrorism. We put up with this state of affairs for decades in the UK at the time of the Irish "Troubles", i.e. the IRA and Prod paramilitary bombing campaigns. There are no opaque litter bins on Waterloo station, to this day. This recent muslim terrorism is no different. You are far more likely to be run over by a bus. We do not go around in fear.
Stop spreading anti-muslim hysteria. Where are you? In Putin's St Petersburg troll farm? Or are you just a panicky coward, somewhere in the US Midwest?
So are you telling us that none of those survivors are still afraid and traumatized from the horrific Islamic attack. And if they are, they are being "irrational"? Grow up and get real. These were targeted women and children we are talking about.
I have. I am a United fan and hardly missed a home game.
You lose. I have relations in Whitefield.
I don't doubt for a second that "Life goes on as normal" for many of the people of Manchester, especially those who weren't affected directly by this atrocious Islamic attack.. But this doesn't mean that those who are affected by this vile unprovoked attack on hundreds of women and very young girls are being "IRRATIONAL" to fear Islam. DOES IT?!
Yes I and the people of Birmingham put up with the Birmingham bombings and I had two friends seriously injured while enjoying a peaceful drink in the Tavern In The Town , New Street., What's your point? I didn't here any reports of the bombers shouting "god is great" (Allahu Akbar in Arabic) before the bombs were detonated. I didn't hear Martin Mcguinness or Gerry Adams telling the world that those atrocities were done in the name of the god of Christianity. AND I didn't see any reports of these IRA atrocities being celebrated around the world by millions of Christians, as was 9/11 . You are pissing in the wind with that comparison.
exchemist
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Not at all. My point is that, contrary to your hysterical assertions, people in Manchester do not go around in fear, just because there has been a terrorist incident. Nor do people in London, where I live, in spite a several terrorist attacks here. As I say, you are more likely to die in a road accident.
So drop this anti-muslim shit and get lost.
You are at more risk of being killed by a white extremist than a Muslim. So if you fear death at the hands of Muslims than whites, you have an irrational fear. And given that you've just brought emotion into it (what about YOUNG GIRLS?) you're even more irrational than most.
Let's look at the facts of risks here in the US:
Number of people killed by coal power plants in the US in 2017: 7500
Number of people killed by white supremacists in 2017: 18
Number of people killed by Islamic extremists in 2017: 9
So yes, you have an irrational fear.