Dear Believers, prove your god or gods is/aren't just fiction(s).

gmilam said:
One friend tells me that god created the universe.
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Ok
gmilam said:
Another tells me that god IS the universe.
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That is akin to Pantheism.
Some may say God is the universe, but it leans towards all of creation is a part of God.
gmilam said:
Another tells me that god is love and the universe is the physical manifestation of god's love.
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Ok
gmilam said:
So, the universe is love and it created itself?
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Bad logic
gmilam said:
That doesn't make sense. I must be missing something.
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I’m not surprised
 
Pinball1970 said:
Individuals without a doubt can be positive moral members of society, theist or not but Religion has quite a chequered history on that front and also today.
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Oh, definitely. Like everything else, it can be a force for good or bad depending on how it's used. There are plenty of examples of it being used for bad, but the examples of it used for good are often just as numerous - if not as newsworthy.
 
Gawdzilla Sama said:
But what about the lies that make people LESS functional. KKK propaganda. Trump saying just about anything. Things like that?
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A few answers there:

1) As I mentioned in another post above, religion is like anything else - and can be used for good OR bad. We would be wise to highlight how it can be used for good, because that's the sort of example we want religious people to follow. As the media worldwide has demonstrated, there is plenty of emphasis on the use of religion for bad.

2) Trump doesn't use religion; he doesn't even understand religion. At most he says "I'm like those other people who are really religious." He'd need to gain both some experience with it and perhaps 20 IQ points to even get to the point where he could intelligently use it for his nefarious ends.
 
Trek said:
Tampon Tim has absolutely no credibility to people with basic common sense
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Your comment is a damning non-answer.
Trek said:
gmilam said:
So you still can't tell us what you believe in? How can I know if I believe or not if you can't tell me what it is you are talking about?
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I believe in God.
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Your entire contribution to this thread has been the same damning non-answer.

Why don't you start a new thread to ask the question you want to ask, instead of trying to JD Vance this one.
 
billvon said:
A few answers there:

1) As I mentioned in another post above, religion is like anything else - and can be used for good OR bad. We would be wise to highlight how it can be used for good, because that's the sort of example we want religious people to follow. As the media worldwide has demonstrated, there is plenty of emphasis on the use of religion for bad.

2) Trump doesn't use religion; he doesn't even understand religion. At most he says "I'm like those other people who are really religious." He'd need to gain both some experience with it and perhaps 20 IQ points to even get to the point where he could intelligently use it for his nefarious ends.
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He uses religion in his campaign, and some religions are happy to use him.
 
DaveC426913 said:
Why don't you start a new thread to ask the question you want to ask, instead of trying to JD Vance this one.
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Because this thread asks for proof that God is not fictional? My contribution was straight up nothing can be proven, so no I can’t prove it.
But I’m wondering why he would ask such a question.
What is his definition of God?
Why does he think that God could be a fictional character?
What evidence would be required to prove God isn’t fictional?
I’ve given my definition of God, and I have supplied evidence of God.
If you can’t even begin to answer these questions, but still claim “no evidence”, then it begs the question: What are you talking about when you claim no proof, and no evidence of God?
 
Why? Because I like you! And I'm ass deep in Arkansas fundy hillbillies who parrot bible-thumper TV celebs.

I don't define fictional beings.
Because there's no proof fictional beings exist.
That would require an impossibility you are NOT capable of.
Your definition is tedious, trite, and the same old BS that has proven NOTHING after centuries of making claims.
 
Trek said:
The thread asks for proof, and it is very dishonest of you to claim otherwise.
Secondly I have given you evidence for God.
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Yes I was clear on that which is why I asked YOU for YOUR evidence.

You provided a poor response so I called you out on it.

Part involved a link so absolutely ZERO thought on your part.
The other part was creationist nonsense regarding abiogenesis.
Something you are obviously clueless on.
 
Why do they think we are the only ones who have to answer questions? If God had checked in with the refs I'd let It play.
 
Gawdzilla Sama said:
He uses religion in his campaign, and some religions are happy to use him.
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No more so than Star Wars uses science. I mean, they call it "science fiction" and they have scienc-y sounding things in it, but that's about the extent of their "use" of science.
 
Trek said:
Ok

That is akin to Pantheism.
Some may say God is the universe, but it leans towards all of creation is a part of God.

Ok

Bad logic

I’m not surprised
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In other words, you got nothing. You don't even know what you believe. Got it.
 
Pinball1970 said:
Yes I was clear on that which is why I asked YOU for YOUR evidence.
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That is my evidence.
Deal with it!
Pinball1970 said:
You provided a poor response so I called you out on it.
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Your personal opinions shouldn’t matter.
If it is poor! Expose it.
Should be a simple job for a smart fellow like you
Pinball1970 said:
Part involved a link so absolutely ZERO thought on your part.
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Your rebuttal is to criticise me :D
Pinball1970 said:
The other part was creationist nonsense regarding abiogenesis.
Something you are obviously clueless on.
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:D
That is all you have.
I’m beginning to wonder if you’re not some disgruntled theist who despises the whole concept of God, on an emotional level.
 
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