Creation of the universe from the middle out....

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Atlan0001

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I always have the strangest feeling that the universe is always in creation from the middle out, future histories (concurrency) forward and past histories (the foundational props) behind, accelerating in expansion out from the middle out, NOW this instant. That right NOW, this instant, is the endless beginning of the universe . . . of all universes. That it is the only real possibility of creation, of beginning, and of the continuous life and physics -- the whole thing -- of the universe.
 
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Atlan0001 said:
I always have the strangest feeling that the universe is always in creation from the middle out, future histories (concurrency) forward and past histories (the foundational props) behind, accelerating in expansion out from the middle out, NOW this instant. That right NOW, this instant, is the endless beginning of the universe . . . of all universes. That it is the only real possibility of creation, of beginning, and of the continuous life and physics -- the whole thing -- of the universe.
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Nonsense.
 
Pinball1970 said:
Nonsense.
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A seedling tree sprouts roots and other branches from the central trunk, from the center, the middle, not the roots nor the other branches splitting strings out from trunk position. The trunk itself expansive in rings, the whole a multiverse universe.

Of course to you, a tree's physics, the beginning always beginning in the middle, the center heart of the tree, and equally but oppositely, all the outbranching branch roads leading back to Rome, as the historical saying goes, in that same center position, would be all "nonsense" cosmic physics to you, as you clearly state anyway in your own one, single, word that covers all your thinking.
 
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Atlan0001 said:
A seedling tree sprouts roots and other branches from the central trunk, from the center, the middle, not the roots nor the other branches splitting strings out from trunk position. The trunk itself expansive in rings, the whole a multiverse universe.

Of course to you, a tree's physics, the beginning always beginning in the middle, the center heart of the tree, and equally but oppositely, all the outbranching branch roads leading back to Rome, as the historical saying goes, in that same center position, would be all "nonsense" cosmic physics to you, as you clearly state anyway in your own one, single, word that covers all your thinking.
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Yep, stupid incoherent nonsense with absolutely zero connection to physics, science and reality.
 
Atlan0001 said:
You are not widely enough read. That is only too obvious!
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It is no more or less "obvious" than 'The Moon is a silver chariot, racing across the sky.'

Your passage and the above passage are both metaphors; they may be pretty and they may be emotionally evocative, but they are not accurate nor informative. Describing the Moon as a chariot is no more or less useful than describing the universe as a tree.

And it's fine - metaphors are fine in the Free Thoughts forum, but there's not really much to discuss here. I'm not sure what kind of responses you were expecting, but it seems the expression GIGO is germane here.
 
I believe you are confused between time and space. Space is much more interesting. People always return to the scene.
 
DaveC426913 said:
It is no more or less "obvious" than 'The Moon is a silver chariot, racing across the sky.'

Your passage and the above passage are both metaphors; they may be pretty and they may be emotionally evocative, but they are not accurate nor informative. Describing the Moon as a chariot is no more or less useful than describing the universe as a tree.

And it's fine - metaphors are fine in the Free Thoughts forum, but there's not really much to discuss here. I'm not sure what kind of responses you were expecting, but it seems the expression GIGO is germane here.
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Describe accurately an infinite universe, a multiverse, and a big bang horizon since you are the all knowing expert on the physics and cosmology of universe and/or universes telling me off!.

Michio Kaku once described strings in terms of the "music of the strings." Albert Einstein said "God does not play dice with the universe." Stephen Hawking came back with "God does play dice with the universe but they're loaded." Hawking described a "Grand Central Station of the Universe" having a special clock hanging over the dead center of the station having only a single digit and a single hand eternally pointing to the time of the Universe. Schrodinger had his "cat." Roger Penrose called the universe "The Table of God." I've read elsewhere along the same line, by a famous physicist I can't remember his name, the universe being called "The Horn of Plenty." There are constellations still named after ancient gods, planets still named after ancient gods.

Mr. All Knowing Expert telling me in no uncertain I'm a know nothing, tell where the center point of an infinite universe would be located! Infinity cannot possibly be observed and I observe it, in my mind's eye, to have a collapsed cosmological constant of distant nonlocal horizon, thus infinities of horizon universes / infinities of universe horizons. The principal of them all, the forever working base Planck Horizon microcosmically far down and in . . . and, at the same time, macrocosmically far up and out. A cosmologically physical constant of physical constants. Closed up into its infinite singularity, the big producer.

An immortal traveler travels away from the Milky Way at speed. He observes the MW behind him beginning to curve away from his line of travel, which he assumed to be arrow straight in expanding away, as it is backing away toward the distant so called Planck BB Horizon. He tries to keep it focused and centered to his rear. The curvature is growing tighter and ever tighter with his continuous powering, his continuous acceleration in the universe. He is in a vortex and being thrown out of what he thought was his universe into another universe. He has lost the Milky Way, both to the vortex and to the Milky Way's history line toward and into the Plank BB Horizon. He remains centered in the horizon. Always centered in Hawking's "Grand Central Station of the Universe" beneath that special clock. A lot of activity, many worlds of it, centered in and around Hawking's Grand Central Station, my trunk of my out branching roads, but roads ever returning to Rome in the center, tree.
 
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Atlan0001 said:
... you are the all knowing expert on the physics and cosmology of universe and/or universes telling me off!.
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It doesn't take an all-knowing expert to see that your word salad is word salad.

You really need to need some books on relativity and cosmology to straighten out your thinking. It sounds like you're just making this all up off the top of your head.

Atlan0001 said:
tell where the center point of an infinite universe would be located!
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An infinite universe does not need a centre.

And while we're at it, a finite universe does not need a centre either.

You would know this is if you'd done a little studying.
 
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