COVID from a China lab.

[RainbowSingularity]

thimerosal

The pharmaceutical corporation Eli Lilly and Company gave thiomersal the trade name Merthiolate. It has been used as a preservative in vaccines, immunoglobulin preparations, skin test antigens, antivenins, ophthalmic and nasal products, and tattoo inks.[4] In spite of the scientific consensus that fears about its safety are unsubstantiated,[5][6][7][8] its use as a vaccine preservative was called into question by anti-vaccination groups, and it was phased out from routine childhood vaccines in the United States, the European Union, and a few other countries in response to popular fears.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal

what you have not included is the compound was used more substantively in compound vaccines
these compound vaccines were discontinued to remove any potential risk as a public alarm response and to provide a better quality product with a lower perceived "potential" risk
these multi vaccines have been changed

the the EU has gone further to rule out the compound on a best possible risk evaluation to eliminate public concern.


https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/pa...downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal-color-office.pdf

Thimerosal is a mercur y-containing compound that prevents the growth of dangerous bacteria and fungus. It is used as a preservative for flu vaccines in multi-dose vials, to keep the vaccine free from contamination. Thimerosal is also used during the manufacturing process for some vaccines to prevent the growth of microbes.

the older vaccine combos of multi dose required higher levels of sudden Thimerosal & as a precaution these types of combination multi dose vaccines have been stripped back to fewer to give best practice and help eliminate parent concern around baby and infant vaccination which is fraught with miss information and terrible anti-vaxer alarmism targeting new parents with baby's to exploit ignorance & create panic & miss information

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/multiple-vaccines-immunity.html

Getting multiple vaccines at the same time has been shown to be safe.
Scientific data show that getting several vaccines at the same time does not cause any chronic health problems. A number of studies have been done to look at the effects of giving various combinations of vaccines, and when every new vaccine is licensed, it has been tested along with the vaccines already recommended for a particular aged child. The recommended vaccines have been shown to be as effective in combination as they are individually. Sometimes, certain combinations of vaccines given together can cause fever, and occasionally febrile seizures; these are temporary and do not cause any lasting damage. Based on this information, both the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices and the American Academy of Pediatrics recommend getting all routine childhood vaccines on time.

CDC’s recommended childhood vaccine schedule ensures children get the best protection during the many different stages in growth and development.
From the moment babies are born, they are exposed to numerous bacteria and viruses on a daily basis. Eating food introduces new bacteria into the body; numerous bacteria live in the mouth and nose; and an infant places his or her hands or other objects in his or her mouth hundreds of times every hour, exposing the immune system to still more germs. When a child has a cold, he or she is exposed to up to 10 antigens, and exposure to “strep throat” is about 25 to 50 antigens. Each vaccine in the childhood vaccination schedule has between 1-69 antigens. A child who receives all the recommended vaccines in the 2018 childhood immunization schedule may be exposed to up to 320 antigens through vaccination by the age of 2.

unfortunately the alarmist anti-vaxxer religious people and conspiracy theorists have continued their attack on new parents to create vaccine hesitancy
combined with miss trust of science this leaves babys with high risks missing booster shots !!!

currently 1st world health systems are struggling to try and get new parents to complete the basic vaccination process including BOOSTER SHOTS which is increasing terrible injury and death on small children and baby's

USA
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/immunize.htm

• 
  
  
  • Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis (4+ doses DTP, DT, or DTaP): 80.7%
  • Polio (3+ doses): 92.6%
  • Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR) (1+ doses): 90.8%
  • Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) (primary series + booster dose): 79.6%
  • Hepatitis B (Hep B) (3+ doses): 90.6%
  • Chickenpox (Varicella) (1+ doses): 90.2%
  • Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV) (4+ doses): 81.0%
  • Combined 7-vaccine series: 68.3%

https://www.cureus.com/articles/199...rove-attitudes-towards-childhood-vaccinations

They’ve found that among the four cohorts, 23% are under-vaccinated.

 

[FatFreddy]

Antivaxx crank crap. You are deliberately taking this thread off topic with antivax
horseshit. - reported.

Somebody else brought it up and I addressed it.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/covid-from-a-china-lab.164194/page-2#post-3670629

Can't I address what other people bring up?

 

[RainbowSingularity]

https://www.cureus.com/articles/199...rove-attitudes-towards-childhood-vaccinations



Childhood Vaccinations


According to a study conducted by the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, early childhood vaccination rates have been steadily increasing. However, a wide variation in vaccination rates exists between states and local communities in the United States. The study examined children born from 2010 and 2013 and determined the vaccination rates three years after their birth year, which is CDC’s suggested completion date for the seven-vaccine series, which include DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus toxoids, and acellular pertussis), polio (poliovirus), MMR (measles-mumps-rubella), Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b), HepB (hepatitis B), VAR (varicella), and PCV (pneumococcal conjugate) vaccines [5-6].They’ve found that among the four cohorts, 23% are under-vaccinated. Several factors contributed to under-vaccination in 2016, including missed well-child visits, refusal, inferred delays, and other unidentified reasons. The largest percentage of under-vaccinated children is due to missed well-child appointments, which is 62%. Inferred delays refer to delays in scheduling the seven-vaccine series, and they account for 4% of under-vaccinated children. Vaccination refusals make up 6%, which comparatively doesn’t seem like a substantial amount, but there has been approximately a 70% increase in vaccination refusal “for children born in 2013 as compared to children born in 2010.” Parents or guardians who refused vaccination, refused all of them, suggesting that one vaccine isn’t more likely to be refused than the other [5]. Additionally, the considerable jump in vaccination refusals emulates a deep-rooted problem that will result in life-threatening consequences.

Anti-Vaccination Propaganda


The anti-vaccination propaganda isn’t a new concept, as evidenced by Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s publication in 1998 that falsely linked autism to the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine [7]. But with the rise of social media, the anti-vaccine sentiment has proliferated. Although social media has played a pivotal role in how biomedical and healthcare companies communicate with their consumers and match the consumers’ “needs and interests with available products and services,” it has also provided a platform that allows consumers to spread misinformation. Social media has enabled consumers to “rapidly seek health information, share medical advice, AND directly manage health conditions,” all of which could be considerably beneficial but only with caution [8]. According to the National Assessment of Adult Literacy (NAAL), only “12 percent of U.S. adults have proficient health literacy” while approximately 35% have basic or below-basic health literacy skills. The limited literacy skills render them incapable of thoroughly understanding available health information to use appropriately, which further propagates misinformation [9].


The nineteenth century marks the beginning of the compulsory vaccine era. It began with the Dutch government in 1871 where they required that all schoolchildren receive vaccinations to prevent the propagation of smallpox. But in 1881, it came to a halt when the Association to Oppose Compulsory Vaccination was established. The association presumed that mandatory vaccinations violated individuals’ liberties and, in response, promoted religious exemptions. In 1879, the Anti-Vaccination Society of America was founded, and its leaders were worried that government intervention would threaten their practices and manufacturers feared that it would limit their trade. Albeit the compromised stance of the leaders of the Anti-Vaccination Society of America, many states repealed compulsory vaccinations. In 1889, the Royal Commission on Vaccination was established to retaliate the rise of the anti-vaccination movement, and in 1907, it passed laws to allow individuals to opt out as a compromise. With that, the anti-vaccination sentiment diminished progressively, more so when medical licensure laws became more structured and when the federal and state government gained more control over public health. The movement was originally against the compulsory nature of vaccinations “rather than vaccination” itself, but its current reemergence is due to concerns about vaccine safety. Unlike the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, the anti-vaccination movement gained deep-rooted traction with the existence of social media and negative connotations surrounding immunizations perpetuated exponentially [10].


Commitment to vaccinations follows the continuum model whereby the intermediates and extremes are represented. Vaccine hesitancy is the manifestation of the intermediates and includes behavioral strategies used to seek alternate vaccination schedules, such as selective refusal, delay of certain types of vaccines, or beginning vaccinations later in a child’s life [11].The lack of confidence in vaccine safety and efficacy along with the quality and convenience of vaccination services contribute to the likelihood an individual will get or have their children vaccinated [12]. Three common false immunological claims influence the public to be more reluctant to get vaccinations: antigenic overload, prominence of autoimmune disorders, and natural immunity. The antigenic overload claim alleges that children’s immune systems are incapable of handling the number of antigens given in immunizations. In Wisconsin, 64.9% of 236 parents that claimed non-medical exemptions stated that they are concerned too many immunizations could weaken their children’s immune system. Those who concur with the antigenic overload claim argue that too many vaccinations could trigger a “cytokine storm,” which, in turn, would result in adverse health events. Although the claim hasn’t been substantiated using scientific evidence, there is a rare occurrence that antigenic simulation caused by vaccines could result in an anaphylactic response. Additionally, there are four significant articles of evidence that antagonize this claim. First, the amount of antigens from micro-organisms that are exposed to children the moment they’re born exceeds the amount and variety of antigens given via vaccines. Second, “studies of vaccine efficacy and safety include” combinations of the different vaccines in the seven-vaccine series didn’t establish any evidence of symptoms and signs of antigenic overload. Third, vaccinated children haven’t demonstrated evidence of antigenic overload. Fourth, throughout the years, the amount of antigens in vaccines has drastically decreased with the implementation of a vaccine schedule and improvements in vaccinations. All four declarations augment the fact that antigenic overload shouldn’t be a concern for parents and that there is sufficient evidence to combat any statements indicating it should be a reason to refuse immunizations. The second claim that anti-vaccinationists have promoted is that vaccines can cause autoimmune diseases. The claim suggests that the vaccine components mimic a human protein so much so that when antibodies are produced, they bind to human analogs instead of the antigens they’re meant to attach to, resulting in an autoimmune response. To identify any possible associations between vaccines and autoimmune diseases, specifically type I diabetes mellitus, multiple sclerosis, and Guillain-Barre syndrome, the Institute of Medicine organized a panel of experts to review more than 12,000 published reports and failed to find any association. The third claim asserts that “immunity induced by ‘natural infection’ is safer than vaccine-induced immunity.” Although acquiring the infection could result in “superior immunity,” acquiring the infection could impose high risks of lethal or disabling complications. Additionally, booster shots, which are subsequent shots of the same vaccine, strengthen the immunological response to certain diseases without the risks of death or other complications. Further, immunocompromised or immunosenescent individuals are unable to retrieve live viral vaccines and depend on others that are capable to do so to protect them from a natural infection [13]. All claims made by those who argue against vaccinations have been countered via peer-reviewed studies, but its advancement debilitates the effect that vaccinations have done on public health thus far.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

the short story is anti-vaxer propaganda is killing baby's & allow them to catch preventable diseases that cripple them for life

It sounds like you only read the mainstream.

lol
i read medical reports, journals & clinical study's including data appraisal study's by medical professionals with doctorates and professorships and listen to scientists talk about things
i read clinical trials and research trials on vaccines & drugs

i will come back later and watch what you have posted out of curiosity

[Two links to dubious videos removed by moderator.]

 

[FatFreddy]

i will come back later and watch what you have posted out of curiosity
this

Check out the info in post #59 too.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/covid-from-a-china-lab.164194/page-3#post-3670979

i read medical reports, journals & clinical study's including data appraisal study's by medical professionals with doctorates and professorships and listen to scientists talk about things
i read clinical trials and research trials on vaccines & drugs

That's good but keep in mind that the American media is famous for lying about science.
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-26#post-3475851

 

[David C]

Somebody else brought it up and I addressed it.

YOU began the whole thing, then complained elsewhere about your off topic posts getting removed!

Can't I address what other people bring up?

The sheer irony of that is beyond belief. THAT is exactly your main problem, you ignore copious amounts of things brought up. Strangely though, anything that enables you to repost from your wall of spam or copy and paste from endless duplicates - oh you reply to that.

 

[David C]

Check out the info in post #59 too.

Stop linking back to your own posts, people are more than capable of reading it the first time! You completely ignored my response to that as you do so very often.

That's good but keep in mind that the American media is famous for lying about science.

Again with your bullshit claim and any excuse to spam the idiotic wall of spam. Comprehensively taken apart by this blog*.

Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: Whistleblowers, governments and lies. (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)
"Summary:-

This section of the "wall of spam" highlights two points that massively contradict each other.

We have the premise that scientists and governments lie, "demonstrated" with whistleblowers and articles written and spoken by numerous individuals very much alive.

We then have the premise that nobody would speak out about Apollo because they would fear for their lives!

BUNKUM!"


* This is where he completely avoids that entire page because of some lie about his arse-kicker being a paid sophist, which he cannot prove - his "proof" is where his arse-kicker kicks his arse and he thinks his own opinion actually means something.

 

[billvon]

Somebody else brought it up and I addressed it.

You brought it up, you dishonest troll.

That's good but keep in mind that the American media is famous for lying about science.

No one here lies more than you do. The old saying about glass houses comes to mind.

 

[James R]

FatFreddy has been warned for promoting information about vaccines that is false.

Due to accumulated warning points, FatFreddy will be taking another brief break from sciforums.

Also, anti-vaxxer lies are not the topic of this thread.

 

[Michael 345]

Photos will be available soon after only $10

Free for today. Had hoped to have photo of needle going in. They ran out of Vaccine



Might try again tomorrow

 

[Dennis Tate]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/health/covid-war-doctors-sanjay-gupta/index.html

What kind of things is a CDC Admin privy too? Also seems that part of the job is to help viruses grow and grow. It all means that China is looking forward to WWIII and developing biological weapons beforehand or, at least this idea will grow before receding and that's even if it does.

Or..... is China attempting to initiate an attack on the USA dollar to grab a large share of the reserve currency market?

The Weimar Republic hyperinflation as well as the hyperinflation in Zimbabwe and Argentina taught us that two factors are needed to produce hyperinflation.
1. print lots and lots and lots of money quickly
2 greatly DECREASE productivity!

Both factors have been happening all around the world over this past year!
Yes... China could well have a lot to gain from what has been happening but there is a tiny segment of relatively wealthy people in all nations who actually like what has been happening to the world economy.

"Neo-Malthusianism" is a concern that overpopulation as well as overconsumption may increase resource depletion and/or environmental degradation will lead to ecological collapse or other hazards.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Triplets All Became Autistic Just Hours After Receiving Pneumococcal Vaccine
https://www.brighteon.com/ff5f1030-c258-4f16-9822-e0e73639bfa7

the indefensible position
the perfect victim
the children make the enquirer to be the abuser via the mother

most people are brainwashed to accept what the mother says as being scientific fact
when the reality is she is giving her personal emotional feelings as a 100% emotional position of events.

there is no clinical material in the news item
it is 100% 1 person making a 10 minute story

0 proof
0 scientific data
0 clinical reports
0 blood test reports

i could venture into some discussion on things but that would be somewhat off topic

you need to post medical data
not just some fantasy story dictated by a person on camera crying as they talk with mood music added

your posting off topic
i suggest you start a thread on the subject if your interested in it.
PM me when you do and i will come in and engage.

the highest scientific most probable statistical cause is the mother catching the father having sex with the nanny and then the nanny being fired and poisoning the children or the mother poisoning the children

what she describes is extreme traumatic shock
this would be achieved by serious abuse of the children
physical
and or a combination of poisoning and abuse
or
a genetic abnormality(quite common in multi-births)

no doctors reports to validate her story
no pediatric reports
no blood tests
nothing
just a big story with lots of crying and theatrics
just like millions of americans who try to scam people every day in the usa
look at all the fake charity's and medical fake injury's suing everyone

late detection of a birth defect of pre existing genetic mutation abnormality
she gets no money
if she can blame a medical procedure
she becomes rich

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Free for today.

someone needs to mail you a go-pro type of camera to mount on your helmet & you can post little blogs of cruising through paradise on your scooter
make it look like your flying
add some chill music
then played on a wall of a pub or cafe somewhere

Or..... is China attempting to initiate an attack on the USA dollar to grab a large share of the reserve currency market?

your idea sounds almost believable to an American or an industrialist or wall st type person
but it lacks a few technical details which make the difference between it being a real desire and just a idea for anti-china conspiracy fiction
fyi
i do not support chinas excessive abuse of authority over peoples political freedoms
equally i do not support the usa using its private business owners over taking governments with extremist liberal policy that undermines regulation and social controls like universal health care & market regulation.

what would china do with all the usa cash if it stole it ?

where would they put it ?
what would it be worth ?

they could build a new great wall of china made out of USA currency physical dollars and it would be a carbon sink
and probably cheaper than trying to use it for anything

it would be worthless

what you cant see is the long game
even though you think your playing it

what happens when the chinese currency becomes globally dominant ?

china suddenly gets painted as the evil master mind that the usa has been
and china will become the new legitimized target for peoples complaints against big brother government and authority

why would they do that ?
it just makes them a bigger target for nothing in return
as other currency's lose value and they lose their trade exchange values for their own production & GDP.

why is china not the world #1 vaccine producer ?

The Weimar Republic hyperinflation as well as the hyperinflation in Zimbabwe and Argentina taught us that two factors are needed to produce hyperinflation.
1. print lots and lots and lots of money quickly
2 greatly DECREASE productivity!

that is outright crack pot stuff

who told you that ?

any depression or sudden take over by a military dictator can create hyper inflation
many European countrys have years of history to show how they have had inflation caused by exterior currency fluctuations and foreign investment playing with their currency for profit
add on tourism failing
and a MASSIVE lack of centrist regulation and social welfare systems and lack of market control & lack of regulation of private businesses & lack or regulation of corporates...
and wham !

printing money has no relationship to hyper inflation

just the same as my question for the thread subject

why is china not the world #1 vaccine producer ?
answer this 1 question

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Might try again tomorrow

considering where coronavirus comes from
it is likely to be in many jungle like habitats in Asia & Africa for the last few hundred years waiting for the perfect storm to help it jump human to human

if you have a 1 million sided dice
and roll it 1 trillion times
you have a better chance of winning the pandemic
than if you only get to roll it 500,000 times

additionally
virus transmission from & between humans & animals

longest established civilization
versus
?

looking at Asian archipelagos
they probably suffer a much greater almost total extermination of gene ranges and villages over the century's
versus
inland civilizations where animals have been bred for hundreds if not thousands of years

that is why genetic diversity is so critically important for humans and all other species
now look at genetic diversity inside those claiming vaccinations turned their children into autistic patients suddenly

 

[Michael 345]

someone needs to mail you a go-pro type of camera to mount on your helmet

I'll take it

you can post little blogs of cruising through paradise on your scooter

Inul girlfriend rider me merely passenger

played on a wall of a pub or cafe somewhere

Currently all closed

Might try again tomorrow

Tried but didn't happen - paperwork fail

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Tried but didn't happen - paperwork fail

tourism is their #1 cash income which drives their entire economy(middle class & consumer spending)
im sure they will seek to add more free vaccines for friends stuck there
it makes financial local community & international sense
(we look after our friends & our friends look after us)

 

[RainbowSingularity]

Triplets All Became Autistic Just Hours After Receiving Pneumococcal Vaccine

Tell that to the parents of these children.

Triplets All Became Autistic Just Hours After Receiving Pneumococcal Vaccine
https://www.brighteon.com/ff5f1030-c258-4f16-9822-e0e73639bfa7

1 theory
wife is an alcoholic
husband is a cheater sexual predator miscreant paying the nanny for sex or paying the nanny to be quiet about his affairs

nanny realizes the babys are not really looking like the children of the husband
discovers the wife has been having an affair and the babys are not the husbands

nanny trys to make money by telling the husband
husband pays nanny to do something to the babys and mother to force a divorce so she will divorce or go insane & he will pay her & she can run off with lots of cash and he will be free to live his single life and babys not his
can refuse alimony

nany poisons mother and babys
but mother/wife is alcoholic and miss dinner that day
same day they going for medical appointment

only babys get poisoned & dont finish full load of poison because they dont have dinner after vaccine at home

easy

typical

wife needs to maintain being the victim because she knows sh cheated and babys not hers
husband just needs to agree to everything she says and he is untouchable

or

nanny has falling out with wife mother
wife mother also informs nanny that nanny will be gone when children start school because wife mother will stop work
nanny thinks
if babys are sick bad then wife mother keep me in job for ever
good money easy job

or
husband trys to poison mother & babys
mother skips meal because she is alcoholic
babys poisoned
nanny changes food not knowing
total poison is limited

easy

no vaccine cause science data anywhere

why triplets ?
because fertility treatment because he is useless for breeding and she is a bit useless

new news headline
fertility clinics cause autism

new news headline
bad male sperm donor causes autism
bad sperm & egg storage causes autism
pre existing condition
who pays ?

no scientific evidence of vaccine cause
no link to a lab producing SAR'S CoV-2 based on your provided information

 

[Beer w/Straw]

The conspiracy lives on.

"It is absolutely accurate the intelligence community does not know exactly where, when or how Covid-19 virus was transmitted initially"

...

The lab theory. Rubio's question was in the same vein as a statement by then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in the final days of the Trump administration that there was evidence researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had been sick in the fall of 2019 with Covid-like symptoms and that the lab in Wuhan, where coronavirus had been studied in bats, had a history of military research.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/covid-origin/index.html

Biden said of Xi Jinping that he doesn't have a democratic bone in his body. Xi Jinping, is also causing shit in the South China Sea and China is not all forthcoming about the virus.

 

[Beer w/Straw]

Dr. Fauci from both the Biden and Trump administrations: https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2...avirus-developed-naturally-sot-vpx-newday.cnn

The only country that I think China is intimidated by is the US, but this could make a reaction Global so to say and China is not one for making friends right now?

If the idea hasn't yet gone away I don't think it will much ever as long as the same regime is in power.

 

[RainbowSingularity]

The lab theory. Rubio's question was in the same vein as a statement by then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in the final days of the Trump administration that there was evidence researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had been sick in the fall of 2019 with Covid-like symptoms and that the lab in Wuhan, where coronavirus had been studied in bats, had a history of military research.

which super power was not working with corona virus for decades ?

a history of military research

Wuhan Institute of Virology

which Chinese research lab is not a government lab or contracting to the Chinese government ?

Biden said

tin-foil-hat right-wing meth junkys who want to jump on the democratic Joe love buss so they can point like billy bunter & scream "i told you so"
do not suddenly validate anything possibly, or possibly not, said by Joe


where is the evidence ?

what they will say is

• "there is no evidence which is why it proves it is true"

what they are looking for is an excuse that allows them to take the blame off the republican leaders in the USA for failing soo terribly and willfully and knowingly in acting when the virus got discovered.
instead they started playing trade war profit greed games with state budgets and politicizing the WHO, trying to turn the WHO & UN into a socialist boogyman to line their own pockets with fear reaction donations & power to knee jerk away from them.

cost hundreds of thousands of USA life's & trillions of dollars
not the sort of people you would bring home to marry your daughter unless you had already dug the hole