COVID from a China lab.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/health/covid-war-doctors-sanjay-gupta/index.html

What kind of things is a CDC Admin privy too? Also seems that part of the job is to help viruses grow and grow. It all means that China is looking forward to WWIII and developing biological weapons beforehand or, at least this idea will grow before receding and that's even if it does.

The CDC does not work for you nor me.
from your linked
"I do not believe this somehow came from a bat to a human. And at that moment in time, the virus came to the human, became one of the most infectious viruses that we know in humanity for human to human transmission ... Normally, when a pathogen goes from a zoonot to human, it takes a while for it to figure out how to become more and more efficient."
Without assigning intentionality, Redfield told me he believes the origin of the pandemic is a lab in China that was already studying the virus, exposing it to human cell cultures.
"Most of us in a lab, when trying to grow a virus, we try to help make it grow better, and better, and better, and better, and better, and better so we can do experiments and figure out about it. That's the way I put it together."

yeh---seems likely

Redfield could speak openly because he ain't part of the CDC anymore
Would he speak so freely if he were still employed/part of the CDC?
(I doubt it)
 
The original post is very unclear and hard to understand. If the assertion is that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been intentionally manipulated and escaped the laboratory (either intentionally or unintentionally), then the science says otherwise. Genomic sequencing has clearly indicated a natural zoonotic origin.

Characteristics of SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19
Hu et al., Nat Rev Microbiol . 2021 Mar;19(3):141-154.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33024307/

Phylogenetic network analysis of SARS-CoV-2 genomes
Forster et al., Proc Natl Acad Sci USA, 2020 Apr 28;117(17):9241-9243
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32269081/

Genetics and genomics of SARS-CoV-2: A review of the literature with the special focus on genetic diversity and SARS-CoV-2 genome detection
Rahimi et al., Genomics, 2021 Jan;113(1 Pt 2):1221-1232.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33007398/
 
Whether or not this particular virus escaped from a lab,is it not the case that all parties to international (or other) conflicts or standoffs are forced by circumstance to attempt to ensure their own security at the expense of their rivals?

In the case of biological warfare this kind of fuck up is an ongoing risk whether or not such may have occurred in this particular case.

Didn't the Russians make similar claims about Porton Down when they poisoned their "enemy within" on English soil?

It is a murky world, that of Spy vs Spy.

Conspiracy theories are hard to avoid in that arena.
 
To me, the only way to think China released that virus is if China had the vaccine already to protect themselves.
 
A lot of doctors and scientists are saying stuff that goes against the official story. I doubt we're being told the truth.

“A lot”, eh? :rolleyes:

Okay, I'll bite.... How many, exactly? Given that there have always been anti-vaxers, that’s not saying much. In fact, it’s saying nothing at all. You’ll always be able to find a handful of apparently well-credentialled people to support any crackpot idea you want: vaccines are dangerous, human-induced climate change isn’t real, the Moon landing was a hoax, the World Trade Center collapse was deliberately engineered, the world is flat.

That you can find a few non-peer reviewed personal websites, YouTube videos and books means…… o_O
 
The original post is very unclear and hard to understand. If the assertion is that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been intentionally manipulated and escaped the laboratory (either intentionally or unintentionally), then the science says otherwise. Genomic sequencing has clearly indicated a natural zoonotic origin.

Coronavirus likely spread to people from an animal -- but needs more study, new WHO report says
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/30/health/who-coronavirus-origin-report/index.html
Saw that maybe yesterday...

Was more thinking of the WWIII edge. You've got QUAD and EU countries overtly looking to react if China militarily invades Taiwan.

118,561 views•Oct 21, 2020 -youtube
 
Okay, I'll bite.... How many, exactly?
I'm not sure but there seem to be a lot.

Doctors Around The World Issue Warnings Against The COVID-19 Vaccine
https://eraoflight.com/2021/01/04/d...-issue-warnings-against-the-covid-19-vaccine/

Doctors now warn about permanent damage and cardiovascular events following COVID-19 vaccination
https://foreignaffairsintelligencec...scular-events-following-covid-19-vaccination/

“Find Me One Doctor That Is Against Vaccines” — Sure, I’ll Find You Hundreds
https://humansarefree.com/2019/06/f...inst-vaccines-sure-ill-find-you-hundreds.html
 
I'm not sure

Just stop right there. You know nothing about any subject you post on. Nada. You spew woo.

Doctors now warn about permanent damage and cardiovascular events following COVID-19 vaccination
https://foreignaffairsintelligencec...scular-events-following-covid-19-vaccination/

This is called science. It is a doctor issuing a warning about the possibilities of damage in elderly patients recently infected. You just post crap without reading it.
 
What you need to know
  • The novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19 probably spread to people through an animal, not a lab, according to WHO's final report on the origins of the virus. The report recommends more study.
  • Canada has become the latest country to halt the AstraZeneca vaccine for some groups, as a precaution, while rare cases of blood clots after vaccination are probed.
  • More than 147 million Covid-19 vaccine doses have been administered in the US, according to CDC data, but the agency's director is concerned about surging cases.
China accused of withholding data from WHO Covid origins investigation in Wuhan
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news...s-03-31-21/h_89d1be2090ae8156dc4a5a1ac8644a77

Ah ha!
 

Just didn't think Chinese would just open up everything for WHO to look at and pull apart?

How ever only for reading and my smidgen of knowledge I would go with animal to human transfer

I would have expected if released (intentionally or unintentionally) it would have ripped through the population a lot faster

Just my 2 cents input

:)
 
This is called science. It is a doctor issuing a warning about the possibilities of damage in elderly patients recently infected. You just post crap without reading it.
Anyone who reads it can see that he's talking about the dangers of the covid vaccine.

Doctors now warn about permanent damage and cardiovascular events following COVID-19 vaccination
https://foreignaffairsintelligencec...scular-events-following-covid-19-vaccination/

Are you trying to sway those viewers who don't bother to click on the links and read the info?
 
Anyone who reads it can see that he's talking about the dangers of the covid vaccine.

No. Anyone who reads it with any semblance of understanding can see he is highlighting a potential danger and he is very specific about it.

Are you trying to sway those viewers who don't bother to click on the links and read the info?

No. I'm trying to give them data to stop them falling into the stupid pit.
 
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