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swooper

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-I THINK CENSORSHIP SUX:mad:. I think everything should b left uncut, in ALL forms of entertainment.
-You shouldn't have to b 17 to go to R rated movies or buy mature rated video games.
-I, nor not many other comparativly young people are as impressionable as many may believe
-The radio is a really good example. There are a bunch of four letter words and "N" words in the music i listen to, so about half the song is edited.We all know what they're saying, but it just ruins the music.
-I dont see what the problem is.
-Perhaps u can prove me wrong, or mayb back me up.
 
I seem to like to live by these simple rules, if you want to, do it. If you don't, don't. That's my basic arguement for things like Abortion and Euthanasia.

The same can apply to censorship. In my opinion censorship doesn't stop society going downhill. It helps it along the way. All these children who aren't allowed to watch violence, even of the mildest forms, will only get a huge shock when they realise what the real world is like. It's like finding out Santa Claus isn't real (and if anyone says 'Oh my god, he's not real!' I will hunt you down because that's the kind of gag I'd pull).

What I honestly do not get is that people in this country can conduct sexual acts from the age of 16 upwards yet we can't watch films with some sex scenes until we're 18. Nor can we watch a man being gutted (which wouldn't be that graphic) but in the real world we can witness far worse attrocities. What's more, films are fake, fiction, made up, like Eskimos!

Studies have even shown that children can tell the difference between a TV show and real life. Sure kids can act out scenes from the Power Rangers, so do adults (admit it, you have!).

Anyway, do censors actually work? Who can honestly say they hadn't seen and 18 or R film until theu were old enough? I remember watching 18's from when I was around 10, maybe younger. And look at me, I somewhat resemble a normal person (normal is boring, variety is the spice of life).

Anyway, my point is that Kusco Quint is not homosexual
 
I saw a special done on ABC news a while back that did a test. They randomly places real (disabled) guns around a play room. Prior to the test the kids had gotten a lecture from a police officer about the dangers of guns. When the experiment started in the room these three year old kids proceeded to pick up the guns and start "pretend" shooting each other. How do kids at the age of 3 know what guns are and even how to use them? After the first experiment was done they did a second. They placed a box of disabled ammo on a table. The kids knew what the ammo was for and one kid even decided to try and load the gun. How do 3 year olds know this stuff? Should we blame it on a lack of censorship?

The clip of video is here
 
Yes, cenorship is stictly for the ignorant, and is annoying to the rest.

As a child they don't notice what the swear words would be unless they've heard it on something that wasn't censored.

Equally, children don't know how to load a gun unless they've seen it on something that did not censorhip guns and usage.

And really censoring something only makes it more appealing to use as a method of rebellion, which fuels adolescence(the search to find ones place in society). I think the most effective way to "censor" something is to make its viewing age 4-6 years greater than the age you want to be exposed to it.

Is it possible to shield kids from everything?

Of course not.

Is it effective?

My way, most likely, the conservative way, no.

But someone has to ask...why in the world is there anything considered "taboo" besides that which conflicts with moral values??

I can understand why you wouldn't want the murderer to escape all the time and win in the end. However, what is the point of "offensive" language. Saying the word "Damn" USED to conflict moral value, for someone was literally damning whatever it was they were referring to, but now that we're out of the Dark Ages this word meaning is in fact obsolete, and completely irrelevant exclusive of superstition.

"What the hell" doesn't even make any sense if put into context, as doesn't "What the Fuck" nor "Holy shit" so I want to know why anyone in the world cares at all, not why they censor it in media.

They are simply exclamations that denote a strong emotion and if this is offensive then the next time I hear someone say "wow", "whoa", "great", "what the heck", or "crap" I'll be sure to sock them in the mouth.

It shows how SOCIETY is sheep to..."do what one is told despite how illogical it is" This is quite parallel to religion and shows society's ills, not that specified group of pious people.

Fuck that.

^(a.k.a "Forget That", with hieghtened emotion)
 
You shouldn't have to b 17 to go to R rated movies or buy mature rated video games.
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Plenty of people younger than the set up age go to see R rated movies in theaters. If you dont know how to do it, you don't deserve to watch the movie.;)
The radio is a really good example. There are a bunch of four letter words and "N" words in the music i listen to, so about half the song is edited.We all know what they're saying, but it just ruins the music.
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Dont listen to the radio. Your CD collection is better than the play lists. Grow up.:cool:
-I, nor not many other comparativly young people are as impressionable as many may believe
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Completely agree. People over age of 35 are more impressionable than people under age of 18.
 
Alot of movies are way too violent these days. I believe that what people glorify, propagandize and advertise, is what other people want to do too. There are plenty of studies and plenty of examples that back this up, i.e. the kids that laid down in the street to imitate the movie stunt they saw and were run over. Also they study where they showed kids the violent images and then had them go play only to witness them act violently towards their playmates.

There was always be someone that will do something if someone is going to give them attention for it.
 
There have also been studies that have shown that people who rob cars, kill, etc. are more likely to play "Grand Theft Auto:Vice City" and watch "Gone in Sixty Seconds", not the other way around. That doesnt mean if i play "Grand Theft Auto:Vice City," I'm gonna walk out and rob a car, or is that what you are implying? I know the difference between right and wrong, just like everyone else.

Plenty of people younger than the set up age go to see R rated movies in theaters. If you dont know how to do it, you don't deserve to watch the movie.
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Sneaking into theaters is for people who take stupid risks, and most of the time, the guy selling tickets wont let me into the movie.

And if thats the case, why dont we lose alot of headaches and lower the age limit for "R" rated movies?
 
I don't think it's right that a small group of people, who I know nothing about, and they know nothing about me, can decide what I, as an adult can and can't watch. However I think censorship is important for kids. I don't know where the boundaries should be drawn though. I think they're okay as they are, but I think there should be very little censorship, if any, for adults! If someone doesn't like what they are watching turn it off. If they do, then watch it. I don't see a problem, except when we aren't even given the choice. Who knows who these people are, who watch videos day after day and decided what we can and can't watch.

There have also been studies that have shown that people who rob cars, kill, etc. are more likely to play "Grand Theft Auto:Vice City" and watch "Gone in Sixty Seconds", not the other way around.
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Very true, and I agree! I think the problems lie with the people, not what is shown. More attention should be paid to human nature, than the silly social experiments that are attempted.
 
I know what you're saying, but I think you're wrong. And it's not common sense!

If you imagine a child, who's nature is perfectly pure (not likely but imagine it!). If you show this child a violent film, is 'he' more likely to go out and do those things, is he likely to just repeat what he has seen? Now take the anti-christ as a child. Show him even a cartoon, where characters inflict physical punishments on each other (but where the scenes are very much un-real-istic), and I bet he will repeat those things. The nature of the child is most important, something most of society doesn't seem to want to deal with. Videos etc get blamed, but the fault does not lie here. it must be remembered that what is being watched is on a television. Having a violent parent in the house is a different thing altogther, but I still think the childs nature is more accountable than anything; a nature that can be passed on from child to parent even when the child is still young, i.e. it's not neccessarily the violence that is accountable, but the natures' of the people involved!
 
Mucker, you are the antichrist? I mean it stands to reason, since your talking about him as a child, who else would you know so well, if it wasn't yourself?
 
Theologically speaking, anyone who denies the divinity of Christ is an antichrist.

"1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

I always liked the Whore of Babylon best.
"Oh baby, drink the wine of my fornication"
Absolutely vile. :)
 
Originally posted by Xev
Theologically speaking, anyone who denies the divinity of Christ is an antichrist.

"1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."
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I am an antichrist, I am an anarchist
It's what I was meant to be
Your god left me behind
And set my soul to be free
Give a wrong time, Stop a traffic light
Right now.

(lyrical collage)
 
Xev said:
"Theologically speaking, anyone who denies the divinity of Christ is an antichrist.

"1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

I always liked the Whore of Babylon best.
"Oh baby, drink the wine of my fornication"
Absolutely vile."

Xev, I am going to straighten you out right quick, the problem with what you do is this. You remember a quote or you look for a quote and you write it down, but the minute one looks at things you can find a million different quotes supporting a million different views. What do you think about the matter? What bands do you like? What is your opinion about about marriage? What is your view about philosophy? Do you see what all these questions have in common? The word "you". On almost every post I see you hiding your true feelings because you are scared of what people are going to think of you. I know you are not a china doll. Look at all the crap that gets thrown at me, you think I care what people say when it is just bullshit anger and they haven't thought through their response. I will still say what I like. I am not going to get intimidated by these people.
 
You know, Freddy boy, if you turned that analytical eye on yourself you might even be worth something eventually.
 
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