Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

Is Watson Right, Are Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

  • Yes, Watson is Right, Whites are More Intelligent

    Votes: 14 35.9%

  • No, Watson is Wrong, Blacks are More Intelligent

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • No, Watson is Jumping the Gun, there is No Evidence Pointing Either Way

    Votes: 12 30.8%

  • What is "Intelligence?"

    Votes: 7 17.9%

  • No, Watson is wrong. Whites and blacks are equally intelligent.

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • Total voters
    39
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Satyr said:
Can you point to one, just one, non generalization.
Please present to us an example of a non-generalization.

Perhaps the #1.
Is that specific or a generalization?
Is there such a thing as 1.
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what are you talking about? I really don't understand? What part of "whites are smarter than blacks" is not generalization? An example of a non-generalized statement would be "intelligence is a function of enviroment", there, simple, no collective assertions, no generalization, no marginalization, no subjectivity. Pure scientific and deductive. I never argued that whites are not generally smater than blacks, I just said a lot of it is due to enviromental factors. Anybody can play basketball, do mathematics, write a book, discover a novel idea, e.t.c, but with the right enviroment. Yes, whites are probably genetically predisposed to learn faster and easier than many blacks, I won't argue that, but I'd always argue that any healthy person can learn anything with the right approach, which is what matters. Its like saying white people can't play basketball because of one reason or the other...oops..Kevin Nash.
 
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Chatha said:
what are you talking about? I really don't understand? What part of "whites are smarter than blacks" is not generalization? An example of a non-generalized statement would be "intelligence is a fuction of enviroment", there, simple, no collective assertions, no generalization, no marginalization, no subjectivity. Pure scientific and deductive.
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"Environment" is a non-generalization?

Are dogs smarter than ducks?

Is "Pure scientific and deductive" different from un-pure scientific and deductive?
 
Skin color is clearly the predominate difference between the races. What other signficant difference did you have in mind?
 
spurious said:
What is IQ?: a measurement of the estimation of how well someone will do in the western educational system.
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Somebody should point out that it doesn't work all that well as an estimator for that purpose, either.

IIRC the only human task or profession in which IQ has been shown to correlate well (beyond a minimum cutoff, pass/fail estimation) with expert-established perforrmance level is within-culture teaching. Which is interesting, actually - teaching is an important and general ability of adult humans, and a measurement of the ability to teach would be a valuable tool.

It only works within culture, though. Again, from memory.
 
Why? said:
Skin color is clearly the predominate difference between the races. What other signficant difference did you have in mind?
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This is getting fun.

Are orientals differentiated using skin color?
What about Indians do they not often have the same skin pigmentation as Africans?
What other physical attributes, simpleton, can you think of when thinknig of race?
 
Ite very clear that most people in this Room have never come accross many intelligence black folks, most of the people in this room are probably continental American.
 
Yes, orientals are differentiated using skin color. No, Indians don't have the same skin color as Africans. Indians are "brown" and Africans are "black". The only attribute I think of when thinking of race is skin color, and perhaps hair color and quality.
 
Why? said:
Yes, orientals are differentiated using skin color. No, Indians don't have the same skin color as Africans. Indians are "brown" and Africans are "black". The only attribute I think of when thinking of race is skin color, and perhaps hair color and quality.
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Asians come in different colors including white just as caucasians often come in pink. LOL.
 
Duh?

Once more time, for the children.

A physical marker, a difference, points to an environmental effect which was propagated within a population due to a period of genetic isolation.

A polar bears fur indicates a divergence and genetic isolation from the grizzle bear or the black bear, for example.

This genetic isolation was affected, over a period of time, by the environment.
This effect isn't cosmetic not is it merely external for to think in dualistic terms is to add a dimension that is unnecessary to explain a phenomenon.
 
So I'll ask again, besides skin color what other genetic differences between the races are you referring to?
 
True, some white people do have straight black hair, but they don't have slanty eye lids.
 
I notice you didn't say intelligence. How does any of these things you list relate to intelligence?
 
...The difference in raw brainpower is not the only mental difference between Whites and Blacks. According to J.P. Rushton’s analysis, Blacks are more excitable, more violent, less sexually restrained, more impulsive, more prone to crime, less altruistic, less inclined to follow rules, and less cooperative. The crime statistics, the impulsive and violent nature of most crimes that Blacks commit, the fact that integrated schools require more discipline and oftentimes the presence of police than do all-white schools, and the more willingness on the part of Blacks to participate in riots would all seem to confirm Mr. Rushton’s observations...
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More social science Jargon, please if blacks are more prone to Violence, why didn't they ever take time to figure out why they are more prone to violence(between me and you I think hispanics are just as violent as blacks). Anybody that lives in NY knows that 60% of the murders and hanous crimes in the daily papers are committed by hispanics. The number one reason why black people are seemingly unpredictable is because they are relative outsiders. They live in a white man's world- White man's language, white man's culture, white man's technology, white man's economy. If Whites had been the one to read and study in an ancient African language, they too would struggle to fit in because a lot of these things won't come natural to them. Using the word "minority" in America and the UK isn't helping to curb the violence either. I told you about a story, we had two dogs when I was younger, one was always inside and one was always outside in the yard, the one always outside became aggressive(especially towards the human males) and unpredictable. Its very natural, any organism that feels left out would always become desperate and extreme. As for why things are the way they are, well thats just the way they are, nature makes certain population more dominant than the other.
 
Trolling, insults and off topic posts removed or infracted; ignore scientific rebuttals at your peril. Recognise that we no longer base achievements on race or ethnicity or gender; that there is NO scientific index for intelligence or race. Discussion of sociological paradigms is permitted if these factors are kept under consideration; however generalisations and personal opinion do not constitute scientific fact..

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Wow, I'm actually shocked that the option "Yes, Watson is Right, Whites are More Intelligent" got the most votes until now :eek:
 
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