Black holes do not exist

@ Dicart: Yeah... still nothing to support your claim. (And now no "explanation".)
 
Dywyddyr said:
Yeah... still drivel.
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I believe that anybody who actually understands any of the basic implications of String Theory....
would tend to be very scared of those implications....
because they lead us to the inescapable conclusion that characters on Star Trek somewhat like "Q" are
likely to be out there in the universe / Multiverse. It is easier to consider all of this to be "drivel" than it would be to
fit all of this into our view of our place in the universe.
 
Adding more drivel doesn't support the previous assertions of drivel.
And what you believe isn't science.
 
Dywyddyr said:
Adding more drivel doesn't support the previous assertions of drivel.
And what you believe isn't science.
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Tell me that one again fifty years from now.....
and yes... there is evidence that implies that you will be able to do that because near death experiencers report being shown
essentially all mysteries... and all available information during their several minutes of near death experience.

I especially like the way that former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava speaks about how he was shown that the html for the universe is
somewhat like the Hebrew alphabet.

That idea would be profoundly offensive to a lot of people... but I liked it.
 
Dennis Tate said:
Tnear death experiencers report being shown
essentially all mysteries.
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And yet not one of them has actually provided material help to the world - scientific breakthrough, solutions to world problems, etc. Go figure.
I especially like the way that former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava speaks about how he was shown that the html for the universe is somewhat like the Hebrew alphabet.
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I wonder if a Russian who went through the same experience would report that the "html for the universe"[1] was somewhat like the Cyrillic alphabet? How about a Japanese person?

1 That in itself being a somewhat ridiculous idea.
 
Dywyddyr said:
And yet not one of them has actually provided material help to the world - scientific breakthrough, solutions to world problems, etc. Go figure.

I wonder if a Russian who went through the same experience would report that the "html for the universe"[1] was somewhat like the Cyrillic alphabet? How about a Japanese person?

1 That in itself being a somewhat ridiculous idea.
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My belief is that NDE accounts in all religious systems are changing all religions more rapidly than we tend to imagine.

In my part of Nova Scotia the Alpha program got together members of various denominations of Christianity that would not have been able to be in the same room back in the 1960's or even in the '70's.

General McArthur stated something to the effect that it must be of the spirit if we are going to save the flesh. That is happening.
 
Dywyddyr said:
And yet not one of them has actually provided material help to the world - scientific breakthrough, solutions to world problems, etc. Go figure.

I wonder if a Russian who went through the same experience would report that the "html for the universe"[1] was somewhat like the Cyrillic alphabet? How about a Japanese person?

1 That in itself being a somewhat ridiculous idea.
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There seem to be some overlaps in languages....
but it was interesting to me that it was a Jewish guy who knew Hebrew who was given that particular insight.

He begin the explanation for this after the twenty one minute mark in this video.....

 
Dennis Tate said:
There seem to be some overlaps in languages....
but it was interesting to me that it was a Jewish guy who knew Hebrew who was given that particular insight.
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You're missing the point.
If he hadn't known Hebrew would he have declared that the "html for the universe" (I'm having trouble stifling a laugh as I type that) would have resembled English? (Or some other language he knew).
I.e. his interpretation was based solely on his own knowledge/ experience/ predilections.
 
Dywyddyr said:
You're missing the point.
If he hadn't known Hebrew would he have declared that the "html for the universe" (I'm having trouble stifling a laugh as I type that) would have resembled English? (Or some other language he knew).
I.e. his interpretation was based solely on his own knowledge/ experience/ predilections.
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Or... could it be that the html of the universe is so much like Hebrew a truly ancient if not original language that
that idea could not be shown to a near death experiencer unless they knew Hebrew......

.... this is one possible point from this that you seem to be missing as well!
 
Dennis Tate said:
Or... could it be that the html of the universe is so much like Hebrew a truly ancient if not original language that
that idea could not be shown to a near death experiencer unless they knew Hebrew......

.... this is one possible point from this that you seem to be missing as well!
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Nope.
I asked the question: if he hadn't known Hebrew what language would he have (claimed to have) seen?
Of course, to accept your interpretation one have to subscribe to the (unverified/ unsupported) idea that NDEs are genuinely what they are claimed to be and that there really is "html for the universe" (also unsupported/ unverified).

By the way, to return to an earlier point, have ANY of these people who allegedly received "great wisdom" from their experience done anything about it? Other than simply establishing their own "cults". (I'll wait).
 
James R said:
Luchito:


Not quite. You haven't said which invalidated theory it was based on, yet.

Which theory are you referring to?

So, there's no particular reason you think the black hole photo is a fake. You just have a general suspicion, based on nothing in particular?


Previously, you wrote "A scrutiny made on the base foundation of the theoretical background supporting the existence of a black hole can easily show its falseness."

Now you say you don't have a theoretical disproof after all. I guess you're withdrawing that claim, then?

You're a creationist, I take it. How old do you think the Earth is, and what makes you think it's that age?


Of course there are observable phenomena. Far too many to even start making a list. Please try googling "evidence for black holes". Look at reputable sources of information from universities, research institutions and so on. There's a ton of evidence.

Before you start making silly claims, you should at least learn something about the subject you're trying to refute. Don't you think?
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OK, lets go to specifics.

You have a star 100 times the size of the sun and proportional density. after such weird phenomenon of "shrinking" (???) give the the new size. Lets play with your black hole. Show your measurements with simple mathematics. Find the size of the sun, multiply it by 100, and later apply the formula to find out the size of the out coming black hole.

Be aware that other star sizes will be used in order for you to find their size as black holes.
 
Luchito said:
Be aware that other star sizes will be used in order for you to find their size as black holes.
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A star become a black hole when the fusion process stop and the star collapse.
This happens usualy when the star have too much Fe (Fe is the atom that can not fusion or fission any more) so the energy (kinetic) can not hinder the collapse of the star any more.
 
Luchito said:
You have a star 100 times the size of the sun and proportional density.
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Only 14 words in and you're already off the track. Your argument is founded on an ignorance of the appropriate physics.

Luchito said:
a̶f̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶w̶e̶i̶r̶d̶ ̶p̶h̶e̶n̶o̶m̶e̶n̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶"̶s̶h̶r̶i̶n̶k̶i̶n̶g̶"̶ ̶(̶?̶?̶?̶)̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶w̶ ̶s̶i̶z̶e̶.̶ ̶L̶e̶t̶s̶ ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶b̶l̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶h̶o̶l̶e̶.̶ ̶S̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶s̶u̶r̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶t̶h̶e̶m̶a̶t̶i̶c̶s̶.̶ ̶F̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶i̶z̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶u̶n̶,̶ ̶m̶u̶l̶t̶i̶p̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶1̶0̶0̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶l̶a̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶l̶y̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶m̶u̶l̶a̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶i̶z̶e̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶l̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶h̶o̶l̶e̶.̶ ̶ ̶B̶e̶ ̶a̶w̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶ ̶s̶i̶z̶e̶s̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶d̶e̶r̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶s̶i̶z̶e̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶b̶l̶a̶c̶k̶ ̶h̶o̶l̶e̶s̶.̶
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̶W̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶w̶ ̶d̶e̶c̶a̶d̶e̶s̶?̶ ̶

T̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶r̶e̶a̶d̶y̶ ̶p̶e̶r̶f̶e̶c̶t̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶e̶l̶l̶ ̶d̶o̶c̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶e̶a̶s̶i̶l̶y̶ ̶c̶a̶l̶c̶u̶l̶a̶b̶l̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶p̶p̶r̶o̶p̶r̶i̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶t̶h̶s̶.̶ ̶ ̶Y̶o̶u̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶m̶i̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶o̶g̶i̶c̶a̶l̶ ̶f̶a̶l̶l̶a̶c̶y̶ ̶c̶a̶l̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶r̶g̶u̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶i̶n̶c̶r̶e̶d̶u̶l̶i̶t̶y̶.̶ ̶Y̶o̶u̶ ̶d̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶s̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶a̶s̶s̶u̶m̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶.̶ ̶ ̶

(̶N̶o̶t̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶m̶e̶n̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶o̶g̶i̶c̶a̶l̶ ̶f̶a̶l̶l̶a̶c̶y̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶k̶n̶o̶w̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶a̶s̶i̶c̶ ̶p̶h̶y̶s̶i̶c̶s̶ ̶-̶ ̶s̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶s̶ ̶w̶o̶r̶k̶.̶)̶

Never mind anything more complicated, just go do your homework.
 
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