I can't recall any, but I've seen quite of few examples from you that would definitely not benefit me in any way, quite the contrary.
Can you provide some examples of these alleged benefits?
Are we purely material beings or do we have souls?
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I can't recall any, but I've seen quite of few examples from you that would definitely not benefit me in any way, quite the contrary.
Can you provide some examples of these alleged benefits?
Probably because this is the Religion forum.
But you're right, not all beliefs are only about religion, there are many kinds of beliefs without evidence that people accept as true.
Only if the beliefs have no evidence to support them. If something is evidence based, it can be understood rather than believed.
You are assuming there is no evidence of God.
If God is the transcendent origin of everything, then everything is evidence of God. You simply deny and reject it, because you deny and reject God. I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, but you certainly aren’t open to the idea.
You pretend that that the starting point is to view the world from the point of view that it came into being, and is guided by nature itself.
Yet you have absolutely no evidence for that, despite the potential absurdity of such a thing happening.
You do that because you deny and reject even the possibility of God, pretending to be interested in evidence, while not prepared to offer a definition of God, in order to know whether or not there is evidence.
So just as your position permits you from having a belief in God, my belief permits me to have a belief in God.
Theism and atheism.
Xelasnave.1947
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Evidence doesn't build upon a supposition.
If the claim is.. there is a god.. then that needs to be established.
I have enjoyed reading your most recent posts as you seem to be much better and best of all you seem to be being relatively honest....although your claim re Paddo really was trolling.
The problem remains the claim that there is a god has no support and even the belief in god can not be traced to any observation that could reasonably infer any of the matters raised when any theist starts to describe god or his activity etc.
The god story is a mere assertion and there is no evidence ...
That is not how it works.
There is no evidence that's it...we do not "define" something then look for it...
The mere possibility of a creator comes from the unestablished requirement that firstly there must be a point where everything was created, such is an assumption, secondly that assumption be accepted out of many possible conclusions which requires an intelligent entity to be the driver of creation be selected to the exclusion of all and any alternative possibilities..another assumption.
You can't assume because the Universe is here that it was created or that someone created it.
All we have re god is a claim that goes without support.
One must accept that humans invent stories and one must accept that these stories are made up and although they may sound plausible and even logical the fact remains they are made up and the lack of real evidence is the predictable consequence of fiction.
The claim that there is a soul is unevidenced it is made up.
I think it was only the King of Eygypt were thought to have a soul at first but as time passed the idea grew to include others such as wives and officials until finally the fantasy grew to include everyone..yet over all that time and until now there is nothing to transport that original notion to reality.
I hope you are well and surviving the crisis as best as you could wish.
Alex
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Gobbledygook...would you like to spray that again?
Interesting case, and I have heard similar with frozen/drowning victims...So? It still in no way supports your mythical soul fairy tale.
Some real fool irresponsible statements in that lot.You seem agitated. But seriously Jan, if I want to hear or listen unsupported and mythical to fire and brimstone like preaching. I'll go to some church OK?
Your reputation makes your claims rather comical at best.
PS: Sorry, I forgot Jan, I have science, that which without, would see you still swinging in the trees with your cousins.
You are putting words in my mouth again.
No Jan, I don't deny a God that's never shown itself. In order to deny something, it has to exist, first. This is where your view of others is biased and skewed.
Not really, my understanding is no one has ever provided evidence for God.
Of course, I'm open to the idea, but no one has yet shown that God is the transcendent origin of everything. Do that, and you'll convince me.
And, you have no evidence that God is the transcendent origin of everything, so it looks like we're at a stalemate. Neither one of us can show those to be true.
There would have to be a God in order for there to be a definition of God.
You're free to hold a belief in God just as I'm free not to hold that belief. As long as our beliefs or lack thereof don't interfere in each others lives, we should have no problems. Right?
Eh, so do you.
There are thousands of versions of God. You deny all but one. Atheists deny them all. You have the same position as atheists, to a 99.9% accuracy.
Agreed, ancient man, before science, and many more groups down through the ages since, find the fact of the finality of death, as pretty worrying for many...the fears, of heaven and hell, then built on that fear of finality, makes things even more worrying and depressing. They [you] obviously need some reassurance to facilitate warmth and coziness with regards to the prospect of death, no matter how mythical and fanciful those ideas.
No one is asking you to suspend your beliefs. Most are just sick and tired of your preaching, dishonesty and other less then desirable attributes. You chose to believe in Santa, go ahead, just don't lie about it.
Lacking gullibility and being so impressionable to unscientific myth certainly. I plead guilty.
So why do you do it repeatedly.
Write4U
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And the one God you don't deny is always your own god, never someone else's. Wars have been fought over ownership! Is it any wonder that the US Constitution has the 'Establishment Clause"?
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That's your right. Believe in whatever you like, Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Magical Spaghetti monster.
Personally, I accept the evidence of science and such models as SR/GR, the BB, and accept the fact of Evolution of life, among many other aspects of reality that science has given us glimpses of.
It doesn’t work like that bilvon.
Everyone who meets you will have a different version of “you”. But you remain. Same with God. I may think of God from my own perspective, and it will differ from all other thoughts. But God is who and what God is. The transcendental origin of everything.
Either you accept that, or you don’t.
Give me good evidence of Santa Claus, and I'll accept him
No you don’t. You say daft things like it is a scientific fact that prior to modern science, people were swinging in the trees. That’s your idea of science, a version that fits your worldview, not science, or even history.
What does that even mean?
