9/11 was an inside job

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Daniel Tosh as in the comedian Daniel Tosh?

You'd think the leader of the most of the most powerful shadow government in the world could do better than a low-budget cable clip show.
 
Balerion said:
Daniel Tosh as in the comedian Daniel Tosh?

You'd think the leader of the most of the most powerful shadow government in the world could do better than a low-budget cable clip show.
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Its there play. To completely demoralize the youth. Tosh is just the harmless comedian.

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True. Just as it would be easier to just go to the Moon than build an elaborate perfect conspiracy, it was easier for security to be lax enough to allow terrorists to obtain some planes and crash them than to build an even more elaborate conspiracy around blowing up some buildings.

They also share in common a lot of bad science.
 
Rhaedas said:
True. Just as it would be easier to just go to the Moon than build an elaborate perfect conspiracy, it was easier for security to be lax enough to allow terrorists to obtain some planes and crash them than to build an even more elaborate conspiracy around blowing up some buildings.

They also share in common a lot of bad science.
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You would think after ten years of going to their country and kicking ass they could have pulled off another attack of sorts here on US soil. We all know our security isn't that great, this is what leads me to think they didn't do it in the 1st place.
 
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You would think after ten years of going to their country and kicking ass they could have pulled off another attack of sorts here on US soil. We all know our security isn't that great, this is what leads me to think they didn't do it in the 1st place.
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It's a fallacy that because something doesn't happen frequently, that there must not be any attempts at all. Mind you, I agree that US security is embarrassing, especially compared to some other countries who use different techniques outside of the "in your face". But why would US security advertise every thwarted attempt? Sometimes it's better to keep things quiet, get some plants inside the network, make them think everything is okay. You get more inside info that way.

Or maybe we've just been lucky, and 9/11 was their last big push, and it worked. We were definitely a lot less secure back then, and had trained our passengers to cooperate with the hijackers to stay alive. Some things in retrospect that we changed do make sense, a lot like how you look back at someone who commits a murder or suicide, and realize there were signs that just weren't picked up.

Anyway, so many of the 9/11 denier claims aren't founded in good science, just like Moon hoax theories aren't, and that gets back to Freddy's attempt to try and get that ball rolling. Sometimes the simple thing is true...even if some parts of it seem unreal to us.

Some people also would like to believe in some bigger grand conspiracy, they feel that today's world doesn't have enough excitement, and they get an ego boost from thinking they are part of a small crowd of prosecuted believers who know some Truth no one else does.
 
Well, actually there have been dozens of attempted jihadi attacks in the continental US. You don't tend to hear about them much because it's not considered politic by the MSM.
 
GeoffP said:
Well, actually there have been dozens of attempted jihadi attacks in the continental US. You don't tend to hear about them much because it's not considered politic by the MSM.
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I really would like to read about some of these if you could post the links please.
 
Rhaedas said:
It's a fallacy that because something doesn't happen frequently, that there must not be any attempts at all. Mind you, I agree that US security is embarrassing, especially compared to some other countries who use different techniques outside of the "in your face". But why would US security advertise every thwarted attempt? Sometimes it's better to keep things quiet, get some plants inside the network, make them think everything is okay. You get more inside info that way.

Or maybe we've just been lucky, and 9/11 was their last big push, and it worked. We were definitely a lot less secure back then, and had trained our passengers to cooperate with the hijackers to stay alive. Some things in retrospect that we changed do make sense, a lot like how you look back at someone who commits a murder or suicide, and realize there were signs that just weren't picked up.

Anyway, so many of the 9/11 denier claims aren't founded in good science, just like Moon hoax theories aren't, and that gets back to Freddy's attempt to try and get that ball rolling. Sometimes the simple thing is true...even if some parts of it seem unreal to us.

Some people also would like to believe in some bigger grand conspiracy, they feel that today's world doesn't have enough excitement, and they get an ego boost from thinking they are part of a small crowd of prosecuted believers who know some Truth no one else does.
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For me personally I find it hard to believe that young kids can obtain fully automatic weapons, the components to make explosives and walk into a movie theater to kill a dozen people, but terrorists can’t blow up a Starbucks. Now don’t get me wrong I don’t want this to happen at all, it just seems to me like if they applied a little effort they could launch some sort of attack. Be it minor or major they could have some impact on American soil. That’s what I don’t understand, people will say we stop terrorist attacks quite often or they don’t make it into the media. But wouldn’t it make the average American feel good if we knew we stopped attacks regularly?
 
I think it's a question of scale or national effect. Blowing up a Starbucks would make the headlines for a few days, but it wouldn't really impact more than the locals. Getting together the resources and manpower to do something truly shocking to the nation as a whole, that is a bit harder from many aspects. I can think of many things that could be done that would be paralyzing to the US, short and long term, and I also am surprised and glad that they haven't happened. But I can't say they haven't been planned or tried in some ways...like I said, sometimes it's better to, instead of stopping something and telling the media much of anything, use your found connections into the terrorist network to work up to the higher points of authority. The whole cutting off the heads of the snakes, as it were. That way you're not constantly fighting small fires, you're putting the big one out.
 
Rhaedas said:
I think it's a question of scale or national effect. Blowing up a Starbucks would make the headlines for a few days, but it wouldn't really impact more than the locals.
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I'd have to disagree with you on that if an actual terrorist attack happened at a Starbucks or anywhere it would be major for everyone in the nation not just the locals.
 
GeoffP said:
Why?
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Why would the attack affect us on a national level?

1.) It would make the general population aware to how weak our security is.
2.) Skeptics would start to realize Terrorism or the act of is a very real thing,
3.) Our nation already feels the impact from when café or subway bombings happen in other countries, I feel this would be intensified if it was local.
4.) VA Tech shootings were talked about for months, think how long the attacks would be broadcasted in the media if it was a terrorist attack on US soil.
 
I think the 9/11 conspiracy theory was some political agenda to make a President or even a political person look bad. It has been done many times, it could be done again.
 
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