A plea

[sniffy]

One more thing.

You can suggest to sniffy that she keeps her mouth shut.
You can suggest to sniffy that she shouldn't have opened her mouth.
But let me tell you what sniffy does with her mouth is her business and her business only.

On the internet:
If sniffy chooses to open her virtual mouth and puts her virtual foot in it. My bad; sniffy shows herself right up.

If sniffy chooses to open her virtual mouth and somebody tries to gag it with their virtual dick sniffy will virtually bite down. Very hard.

And somebody will virtually end up in tears.

Now just in case someone interprets that as a veiled threat let me spell it out really clearly. IT IS A METAPHOR.

OK everyone?

 

[leopold]

But let me tell you what sniffy does with her mouth is her business and her business only.

uh, well, i was about to say something really stupid but decided against it lest sniffy unleashes a verbal barrage on me that would make a bursting hoover dam seem trivial.

 

[sniffy]

uh, well, i was about to say something really stupid but decided against it lest sniffy unleashes a verbal barrage on me that would make a bursting hoover dam seem trivial.

leo

Fact: Somebody I loved died of cancer in July. If anybody doubts it I am more than happy to provide the evidence. If you want to suggest that this event has any bearing upon whats happening here well that is a possibility. It could make someone paranoid and hysterical to lose a loved one to cancer. Or it may be totally unrelated to the matter at had.



I'm not trying to get a sympathy vote here but I am making a valid point.

I do know the difference between trivial and important, and silly and serious and what matters and what doesn't believe me.

Let's just say as if you didn't already know that I've got a bee in my bonnet.

Bonnet. Not a trilby. Not a fedora. Bonnet. I know quite a bit about hats too.

Hats. LOL!!

 

[leopold]

It could make someone paranoid and hysterical to lose a loved one to cancer.

believe me when i say i understand your pain. the emotional trauma, the sleepless nights, the pacing the floors, the bouts of crying, yes, i've done it all.

only time can heal you. the scars will still be there but at least you won't be bleeding anymore.

 

[sniffy]

Can you read? I'm beginning to doubt it.

Sniffy had been throwing a tantrum in more than one thread. Read the discussion. Every question was answered. Yeah, I got annoyed about the issue at--oh, I don't know--about the fourth post where she was actually surprised that a website can be altered in any way the owners see fit. It's digital, but SOMEHOW, I should have been polite and coddled her.

What would have been the right response? "Oh, no dear, the place is unchangeable, and polls can never be altered. Never fear." Sorry. There are, in fact, stupid questions, contrary to what your teacher taught you. Dancing around a frakking website, then feigning emotional upset at the notion of its impermanence is a little moronic. Expect a cold response when you throw a fit about a matter that is--in essence--a non-issue.



~String

Doh string....can you read your own words or wha?



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Yesterday, 12:59 PM #101

he can add votes?

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Yesterday, 12:59 PM #102

“ Originally Posted by John99
he can add votes? ”

Hmmmm. I don't think so. Lemme see. . . . . . . .

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Yesterday, 01:01 PM #103

Shit. . . . I was wrong. He can, in fact, alter the votes.

[well, at least I can in my fora]
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Yesterday, 01:04 PM #104

yep.

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Yesterday, 01:05 PM #105

Are you trying to get the new mod relieved of his duties by partaking in unethical behavior?

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Yesterday, 01:06 PM #106

“ Originally Posted by one_raven
Are you trying to get the new mod relieved of his duties by partaking in unethical behavior? ”

Ahem. . .

Unethical?

[to quote Stalone, again. . . ]

We are the law!

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[sniffy]

I find it laughable that there is a person ALIVE (who has enough knowledge to access the internet) that is under the insane impression that a website--which is a collection of software bits & pieces--is somehow unalterable. Just as well, that we should be obligated to inform every member of the patently obvious.

Beware! When it rains, the water can hit your head too!

Seriously.

READ THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS!

~String

String FYI - I bin a moderator on a website so I know that duh it is duh duh website doh alterable doh doh duh duh internet

Part of my paid professional job is to alter a website on the internet. If anyone requires evidence of this then I'm more than happy to provide it.

However I will hold my hands up and say......

I think everyone should get the picture now shouldn't they? Cos if you didn't you'd be a bit moronic now wouldn't you?


:wave:

 

[James R]

sniffy:

Hindsight great thing isn't it? If you recall I asked about the process. Perhaps not in a way that you like James but nevertheless I asked.

I'd say it was more of a demand for answers. But never mind.

Warning: facts coming up! James if you doubt these facts I'm more than willing to provide evidence to back them up. You know what evidence is don't you James?

You know what a patronising tone is, don't you sniffy?

Some facts:

I have had professional involvement in employee recruitment, both paid and voluntary; for private, governmental and third sector organisations. Said recruitment includes both the external and internal. Now I'm going to make an assumption here James that you understand the difference between 'external' and 'internal' recruitment? [snip]

As it happens, I have also had professional involvement in employee recruitment, both paid and voluntary, so I think we can safely assume that we both know what we're talking about. Thanks for the primer, though.

I saw a thread inviting members to nominate themselves for something. Thread locked.

In other words you saw the thread a week too late and it pissed you off. Is that it?

So for instance somebody might say: 'Oh it doesn't matter. I'm not really bothered.' When in actual fact they may well be 'bovvered'. It depends entirely what they have invested.....

This is all hypothetical. You're making an argument in the abstract on behalf of a hypothetical group of people who may have nominated themselves and been upset by the process. But the funny thing is that they are not complaining. It's just you. Oh, and Gustav is always up for joining in any complaint involving me, so he's with you of course.

Hello brothers and sisters of sciforums. Shoulda, coulda, woulda with hindsight.


A virtual scenario:

[snip]

I'm not sure what the point was with your script, but I hope it helped get it out of your system.

One more thing.

You can suggest to sniffy that she keeps her mouth shut.
You can suggest to sniffy that she shouldn't have opened her mouth.
But let me tell you what sniffy does with her mouth is her business and her business only.

I think I've encouraged you to open your mouth. In fact, I invited you to discuss the matter in this thread (or by PM).

Fact: Somebody I loved died of cancer in July. ...If you want to suggest that this event has any bearing upon whats happening here well that is a possibility.

I've truly sorry to hear that. You have my sympathy.

---

Are we done yet?

 

[Gustav]

Oh, and Gustav is always up for joining in any complaint involving me, so he's with you of course.

dont be silly, james
post #95 and 96 requires no sniffy
just a james

the mod edit issue was weird cos a noob mod handled it
you however set the record straight
unresolved is this.......

There was a self nomination moderator contest here on sciforums recently.

I was wondering whether or not there is a formal process of informing nominees in advance of any decision. You know as a matter of good manners; assuming that the administrators wish to demonstrate what they say they wish to perpetrate, so to speak.

So self nominators were you told of the decision? Or did you just find out with the rest of the hoi polloi.....?

this was my solution....

perhaps something constructive can come out of this farce?
a clear outline of protocol?

in order to preempt crap like.....hype and enmos, string, a public announcement should be made first..blah..blah

lets call it the Sniffy Appointment Protocol (SAP)

so ahh, go make a sticky or something in sf

 

[GeoffP]

Sniffy: you ok? Drop me a PM.

 

[Ophiolite]

But the funny thing is that they are not complaining. It's just you.

Sometimes I feel invisible. Were my objections overlooked because I was too rude in them, not rude enough, inconsequential as always. Sniffy has a valid point and has become animated largely because the point was dismissed as a non-event. Politeness should never be a non-event.

 

[PsychoTropicPuppy]

Politeness would be to wait for the admins to make an official announcement that the voting process is over, and that the candidates have been picked before creating one rant thread after an other...well, don't you think that this would be the least bit of politeness to show after putting politeness on such an important pedestal, hm?

I don't know of any place where they'd inform the contestants privately about their loss before the official announcement. Well..does anyone here know of such a contest where the jury actually bothers to inform the losers about their loss at all?

 

[Dywyddyr]

I don't know of any place where they'd inform the contestants privately about their loss before the official announcement. Well..does anyone here know of such a contest where the jury actually bothers to inform the losers about their loss at all?

Well not contests as such, but in most cases job applicants are informed when they haven't got the position.

 

[PsychoTropicPuppy]

Well not contests as such, but in most cases job applicants are informed when they haven't got the position.

You got a point there. But here those who didn't get the position would have seen it in the official announcement that they didn't make it. In job applications..that's different.

 

[Enmos]

But, Psych, there was no voting. There was a discussion going on in the mod forum at the same time. The way I see it the self-nominations were just to make the selection process easier for the mods, it limited the group they would have to choose from.

 

[leopold]

sniffy,
you are (insert verb here) because you didn't get to be a mod?
by what you stated earlier, losing a loved one to cancer, do you really feel up to the task?
i would've liked to be a mod too but due to recent events my heart would not have been in it.
if you look at this realistically i believe you would say the same about yourself.

 

[Dywyddyr]

sniffy,
you are (insert verb here) because you didn't get to be a mod?

I have a strong suspicion that one contributory factor to sniffy not getting to be a mod is the fact that she didn't apply.
Just a guess.

 

[Enmos]

I have a strong suspicion that one contributory factor to sniffy not getting to be a mod is the fact that she didn't apply.
Just a guess.

Well, she did say she missed it

 

[Ophiolite]

Well..does anyone here know of such a contest where the jury actually bothers to inform the losers about their loss at all?

I inform students of their course results before these results are publicly available.
I absolutely advise job applicants that they have been unsuccesful before a public announcement.
I can't think of any instance in which I would not follow this process.

 

[Stryder]

To be perfectly honest, I don't think there would of been any acceptable way of asking for moderators. I mean if a clandestine choice is made by moderators and suddenly thrust upon the community there is an uproar, when the moderators try to get it right by asking publicly, if there are indeed volunteers, again it's wrong.

There seems to be this slight pattern, If a moderator or the administration makes a decision, it's wrong. Even if it was the absolute way that something should be done there would still be people claiming it's wrong.

This is why it was seen as a "non-event" because it was seen as just another one of those "we've got to beat on the moderators and administration" threads. Now sniffy might might not of meant it to be like that, but that is how some would see it and they would neatly pigeon hole it with historical references to other threads upset or distraught at how operations are done on this forum.

So taking this into consideration how about changing the topic of this thread a little. How about the membership coming up with ideas on how things are suppose to be done as a SUGGESTION, prior to moderators and administration having to autonomously make the decision and be boo'd for it.

So we'll start it off, "How do you get (choose, pick, vote etc) new moderators on a forum?"

Take into consideration:

• They are unpaid
• They are volunteers
• They will likely have people hate them just for becoming one.
• They won't likely be chose if they have a long history with the moderators or administration
• They need to be popular with the forum members not just the moderators.
• They need to be trustworthy and genuine.

If the membership can create a 'Specification' then perhaps we can follow it.

 

[PsychoTropicPuppy]

But, Psych, there was no voting. There was a discussion going on in the mod forum at the same time. The way I see it the self-nominations were just to make the selection process easier for the mods, it limited the group they would have to choose from.

Okay, okay..

I inform students of their course results before these results are publicly available.
I absolutely advise job applicants that they have been unsuccesful before a public announcement.
I can't think of any instance in which I would not follow this process.

Okay.
Well, but at that point when people started complaining they weren't even finished with picking new mods..or do you also inform students, or job applicants about the results before you even got the complete results?