I wouldn't dream of judging Hameroff's qualifications. I cite him often as particularly qualified in the area of "consciousness" and his associating microtubules with that apparently "controllable" phenomenon.
However: "I believe downloading and Afterlife are possible", is a somewhat curious answer. What exactly does he mean by the term "downloading"? And what does "Afterlife" mean exactly?
Could it mean it might be possible to download the contents of the brain into another brain (possibly AI) and therefore living an afterlife in another physical form?
I tend to be suspicious of the concept of "downloaded free floating thoughts in spacetime"
In science how is the term "downloading" used other than physically transferring data from one system into another system?
Moreover, does LADS have a living survival purpose? Seems to me that procreation itself "downloads" the genetic data of the organism and is sufficient transfer of data in itself.
And then the question, given the enormous range of conscious organisms, at what evolutionary level does an organism acquire LADS?
[George E Hammond MS physics]
...Na, na, na... Here is a copy of the email that I sent him 2 days prior to the email he sent back to me. Clearly from this you can see that he was addressing EXACTLLY my theory as I stated it:
December 3, 2009
Professor Stuart Hameroff
Center for Consciousness Studies
University of Arizona
Dear Professor Stuart Hameroff:
...Prof. Frank Tipler (Physics, Tulane) is an internationally prominent scientist and a best-selling author. He is a personal friend of Roger Penrose and in fact you may even know him personally. In a celebrated 1994 book entitled the _Physics of Immortality_ he advanced the notion that if you could build a large enough compute that it is theoretically possible to "simulate" any given human being. In fact, he proposed that somewhere in the distant future such a computer will be built and used to "resurrect" people to Life After Death...i.e. as a virtual person living in cyberspace inside a gigantic computer. Now, as a physicist myself, I recognize that such a hypothetical idea is trivially true logically, even though of course, it is a practical impossibility. He advances for instance, that you would need an astronomically sized computer to actually do the job. He published the book in 1994 the same year that Roger Penrose published his best-selling book _Shadows of the Mind_ in which he succeeded in putting microtubules on the map of the scientific world. This means that Professor Tipler was totally unaware of the additional 15 orders of magnitude of microtubule computing power that actually exists in the human brain when he wrote his book.
So, my question to you is simply this: If we can accept Tipler's thesis that a big enough computer could resurrect the body in "virtual reality", is it possible that the then unknown microtubule computer already extant in the brain, actually does just exactly that; resurrect the body after death? As you have mentioned many times the cytoskeleton remains viable for up to 30 minutes after death. And a simple numerical calculation shows that comparing Frohlich's frequency to neuronal frequency, a prerecorded year-long" Afterlife dream" could be downloaded from the cytoskeleton in a fraction of a second. The Observer of that dream of course would be the cytoskeleton of the entire brain itself, so that even though the bedside observer would see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly departed would subjectively live on for a year in cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond demise. So my question to you Professor Hameroff, is simply this: Would you be prepared to say that such a thing is "flat out scientifically impossible"? Note that I am trying to avoid putting you on the spot by not asking you if you think it is possible, but rather asking you if you think it is impossible! In closing, I would invite any other interested readers of this message who have an intuition or comment about this conjecture to please by all means, post any reply that you consider scientifically relevant. My best regards, George Hammond, MS Physics
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:43:23 -0700
From: Stuart Hameroff, U. Arizona
Subject: Re: (fwd) A Scientifically Competent Religious Question for Stuart Hameroff
To: George Hammond Cc: Frank Tipler, Tulane U.
Dear George Hammond:
I believe downloading and Afterlife are possible.
Stuart Hameroff
[George E Hammond MS physics]
So you can see Write4u, but Stuart Hameroff is addressing EXACTLY my theory, and nothing else –period!
... He knew exactly what I was talking about, how I thought the system worked, and all the details – and Stuart Hameroff said that he "thought it was possible".
... Meanwhile, I get back to you later W4u on the wrist of your questions, it's 3 AM here on Cape Cod and I'm gonna hit the sack!
George