RAM: how much?

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  1. Stryder

    Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    It's a shame you aren't interested in a Windows system, although lots of people give Vista flack one of the things that Vista does have to offer is the ability to use USB RAM sticks on laptops. (This basically means you can externally upgrade your RAM should you need to)

    I'm not sure if Mac's have that function encoded into their software as of yet. Anyway it was meant as a method to deal with hitting the RAM roof on a laptop.
     
    Stryder, Jul 22, 2008
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  3. Syzygys

    Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    The thing is that she obviously doesn't have the extra money, but she would rather eat Top Ramon soups for a year, instead of buying a Windows laptop for 1/3 of the price.

    I am a cheap bastard but if I spend 2500+ dollars on laptops, I would buy 3 cheaper ones...(that actually have the same computing power) Not to mention Apple notebooks are stuck with the 2 G RAM....
     
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  5. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The reason I have to buy a new laptop is because of the new Mac Office '08. I can imagine Vista makes it worse, so PC users would need incentives to buy it.

    Syzygys:

    I was being facetious.
     
    S.A.M., Jul 22, 2008
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  7. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I asked Apple all my questions and apparently, I do not need a new laptop [yay!] I can increase the RAM, change the microprocessor and get an external hard drive instead. Whew!

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    S.A.M., Jul 29, 2008
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  8. ashura

    ashura the Old Right Registered Senior Member

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    Didn't you say your laptop was 3 years old? I dunno if that's such a good idea. What exactly are they offering you for the microprocessor? And how much for the total package?
     
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  9. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm apparently all is not as it seems. I have to go speak to a live person in an apple store. :bugeye:

    Wish I could keep this laptop though. Its so convenient. Why did they stop the Powerbook G4 do you know? Its such a great notebook.

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    S.A.M., Jul 29, 2008
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  10. kmguru

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    32 Bit OS are limited to 3 GB, 64 bit OS can take in 4 GB and higher
     
    kmguru, Jul 29, 2008
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  11. Dr Mabuse

    Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    Most 32-bit systems max at 4 gigs of mapped memory(there were some systems with special hardware extensions that could go over 4), it's not 3 gigs.

    64-bit does take you over 4 gigs of mapped memory.
     
    Dr Mabuse, Jul 29, 2008
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  12. Syzygys

    Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I can see the fun in carrying an external HD around...
     
    Syzygys, Jul 29, 2008
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  13. kmguru

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    According to Microsoft website:

    If a computer has many installed devices, the available memory may be reduced to 3 GB or less. However, the maximum memory available in 32-bit versions of Windows Vista is typically 3.12 GB.

    WORKAROUND
    For Windows Vista to use all 4 GB of memory on a computer that has 4 GB of memory installed, the computer must meet the following requirements: • The chipset must support at least 8 GB of address space. Chipsets that have this capability include the following:• Intel 975X
    • Intel P965
    • Intel 955X on Socket 775
    • Chipsets that support AMD processors that use socket F, socket 940, socket 939, or socket AM2. These chipsets include any AMD socket and CPU combination in which the memory controller resides in the CPU.

    • The CPU must support the x64 instruction set. The AMD64 CPU and the Intel EM64T CPU support this instruction set.
    • The BIOS must support the memory remapping feature. The memory remapping feature allows for the segment of system memory that was previously overwritten by the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) configuration space to be remapped above the 4 GB address line. This feature must be enabled in the BIOS configuration utility on the computer. View your computer product documentation for instructions that explain how to enable this feature. Many consumer-oriented computers may not support the memory remapping feature. No standard terminology is used in documentation or in BIOS configuration utilities for this feature. Therefore, you may have to read the descriptions of the various BIOS configuration settings that are available to determine whether any of the settings enable the memory remapping feature.
    • An x64 (64-bit) version of Windows Vista must be used.
     
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  14. Mr.Spock

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    you should get 4gb while the ddr2 are cheap. you dont need it right now, neither for vista or xp.

    but, you would need for Microsoft new OS dubbed windows 7, based on NT and windows 2000 that will come put in 2009 apx.

    BTW, for vista to take advantage of more then 3 giga of RAM you need to install the 64 bit version.
     
    Mr.Spock, Jul 30, 2008
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  15. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You're talking about Windows, I have a Mac. I have decided to be unlike myself and wait for another month before making a decision.

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    S.A.M., Jul 30, 2008
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  17. Mr.Spock

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    arent those expansive? and i know we have a problem with their lab here, you know how a laptop can go high wire. i recommend dell inspiron 15XX model.
     
    Mr.Spock, Jul 30, 2008
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  18. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I've been using a Mac for 3 years now, its expensive, but safer no viruses, no crashes.

    I use Dell at work, my lab office has a Dell desktop.
     
    S.A.M., Jul 30, 2008
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  19. Mr.Spock

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    i think dell are cheaper and are with higher quality. if you use an antivirus, firefox and disable cookies and you dont click on any link, you should be fine. i got one virus in 4 years and i surf on tons of porn sites.
     
    Mr.Spock, Jul 30, 2008
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  20. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Geez, I cannot disable cookies or avoid links in my work.
     
    S.A.M., Jul 30, 2008
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  21. Mr.Spock

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    if those cookies are constant you can define them in the allowed cookies section. if not, youre screwed.

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    Mr.Spock, Jul 30, 2008
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  22. S.A.M.

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    I'm behind a firewall so its not a problem at work. But yeah, virtual network would suck.
     
    S.A.M., Jul 30, 2008
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