Ps3 vs Xbox 360

[Stryder]

the 360 cannot compare in reliability though. and the lineup of games isn't better most of the top games aren't exlusive like halo and bioshock

One problem with the 360 is just down to how the programmers set about Caching the games, since most of the time the information either has to be loaded into memory or being directly read of the DVD. This of course can cause problems and for the most part those Three red lights of death that are so infamous with the first batch of XBOX's can be linked just to the DVD drive failing alone.

For instance there is a fair amount of difference in the way Oblivion plays on the PC in comparison to the XBOX. The XBOX you have to wait occasionally for load screens to pass as you move between different areas (which occasionally results in a crash), on the PC if you have enough RAM, swap space and a full install there is very little load time.

 

[pjdude1219]

all you need to know is the failure rates ps3 .02%
Xbox 360 30%

which is better. i believe its a no brainer

 

[Norsefire]

all you need to know is the failure rates ps3 .02%
Xbox 360 30%

which is better. i believe its a no brainer

It is a no brainer.

360 has better games, accessories, online, and deals

PS3 has few games (less exclusives), accessories are overpriced, PSN is still on its toes, and there aren't many good deals

 

[VossistArts]

I finally broke down and got a ps3. Mostly I was interested in a blu-ray player. Sony sells a good one for around $600. So I got the ps3 for 500$. Its true there arent very many games ported specifically for the ps3 but theres all the ps2 games. Plus, I like the built in wireless on it. It took like 3 minutes to hook it up to my wireless network and get online. I havent downloaded in games though. When I first got it online I got a message there was like a software update for the ps3. It didnt tell me how big the file(s) were that it downloaded, but it took a hell of a long time.. like 45 minutes or an hour.

Oh and its HEAVY! I just like that. It feels tough. heh

I shouldve put the graphics before that. A few of the ps3 games I rented for it were super outrageous graphically in my opinion. It was a whole new experience for me to play a game pumping graphics that intense the whole time. Theres huge potential in this machine. I think it has all the other game systems including pc, totally bested in potential at least.

 

[(Q)]

Are you serious? The kid says, "I want a PS3". Dad says, "OK, cool. I could play it too." Runs down to the store, sees the price tag, has a heart attack. So he asks the video geek working there, "Hey, why is this game system so expensive? Is there anything comparable for less?" Viola. The kid gets a 360, and is probably pretty happy with it.

By the way, I prefer the 360. I'm just making the point that parents care more about price than some subtle differences in gameplay that requires you to link the game sytems via some kind of robotic interface to detect.

Given the lower price and better lineup of games, it's 360 hands down.

What you're essentially saying is that the video geeks could explain why the PS3 was more expensive, yet the dad preferred the inferior model for the price. Kids who actually wanted a PS3 had to settle for a 360.

And of course, they would be happy, they just received the second best game console on the market.

 

[(Q)]

I finally broke down and got a ps3. Mostly I was interested in a blu-ray player. Sony sells a good one for around $600. So I got the ps3 for 500$.

An excellent point. A good purchase even if you never use the gaming platforms.

I shouldve put the graphics before that. A few of the ps3 games I rented for it were super outrageous graphically in my opinion. It was a whole new experience for me to play a game pumping graphics that intense the whole time. Theres huge potential in this machine.

What's the name of those games?

 

[Norsefire]

What you're essentially saying is that the video geeks could explain why the PS3 was more expensive, yet the dad preferred the inferior model for the price. Kids who actually wanted a PS3 had to settle for a 360.

And of course, they would be happy, they just received the second best game console on the market.

First best, Q, first best

 

[Tnerb]

Not quite a no brainer.

However I pray I do that the 360 will stay with the ps

 

[pjdude1219]

It is a no brainer.

360 has better games, accessories, online, and deals

PS3 has few games (less exclusives), accessories are overpriced, PSN is still on its toes, and there aren't many good deals

did you even look at the failure rates the ps3 is by far better

 

[Stryder]

did you even look at the failure rates the ps3 is by far better

Well the 360 failure rate was higher because they pushed to lead the market and in doing so QA wasn't regulated properly. the PS3 has only had a less failure rate since the ability to view Microsofts failures was possible, in fact if you didn't know the PS3 saw a push back in regards to release in Europe and that was on the grounds of some 'Technical issues'. (You could suggest their QA pulled it up)

 

[Oniw17]

Well the 360 failure rate was higher because they pushed to lead the market and in doing so QA wasn't regulated properly. the PS3 has only had a less failure rate since the ability to view Microsofts failures was possible, in fact if you didn't know the PS3 saw a push back in regards to release in Europe and that was on the grounds of some 'Technical issues'. (You could suggest their QA pulled it up)

So Sony has better marketing strategies?

 

[pjdude1219]

Well the 360 failure rate was higher because they pushed to lead the market and in doing so QA wasn't regulated properly. the PS3 has only had a less failure rate since the ability to view Microsofts failures was possible, in fact if you didn't know the PS3 saw a push back in regards to release in Europe and that was on the grounds of some 'Technical issues'. (You could suggest their QA pulled it up)

so your saying what sony decided to deal with hardware issues while microsoft didn't care. and still a 30% after being out for more then a year is god awfull

 

[pjdude1219]

i'm going to sum up what been said about the 2 systems and then give my opinion on which has the edge
x-box 360: large title selection due to time since launch. a fair number of exclusives but with some complaints of lack of vairity in them. top series is not system exclusive(halo) decent number of games that are only also on pc. mid range cost. high chance of numerous or any hardware problems. Failure rate is put at 30%. 2 lawsuits claiming microsoft knowing sold a defective product. console sales are on the decline over past few months

PS3: a smallish but growing title selection due to time since launch. a fair number of exclusives but smaller than the others. almost all exclusives are true exclusives not time exclusives or on pc. some top series have gone mutli-platform but the still has some system exclusive staying exclusive. highest cost of all consoles. very low chance of numerous or any hardware problems. failure rate is put at .02% no known lawsuits for selling a defective product. large increase in console sales in the last few months

advantage ps3

 

[madanthonywayne]

betamax was better

I knew there had to be someone out there who'd say that!

the 360 cannot compare in reliability though. and the lineup of games isn't better most of the top games aren't exlusive like halo and bioshock

I've heard there have been some problems. I, on the other hand, have had a 360 since the day they came out with zero problems.

 

[pjdude1219]

I knew there had to be someone out there who'd say that!

I've heard there have been some problems. I, on the other hand, have had a 360 since the day they came out with zero problems.

for the first one i have watched both betamax and vhs and the betamax were better

as for the second count yourself lucky from what i read no only is there a high chance of failure a recent article stated the microsoft doesn't fix them they just send you a new system with the same defects there

 

[madanthonywayne]

for the first one i have watched both betamax and vhs and the betamax were better

An ironic aspect of format wars is that perceived technical superiority does not always win. Though Betamax was perceived by consumers to have better picture quality than VHS, a number of factors including VHS's longer recording time, wider range of models and suppliers, and lower cost eventually relegated Betamax to a niche market in Japan. http://www.allaboutmovies.com.au/pages/a-brief-history-of-the-dvd.php​

As you know from the Betamax v/s VHS format war, the highest quality doesn't always win. Cost is a very big issue and may have been the deciding factor in the VHS/Betamax war. The same thing could very well happen here. Really, I hope both systems continue to be produced. Competition is good for us consumers.

 

[Oniw17]

If price was that important, you'd be seeing a surge in N64s and Dreamcasts right now.

 

[pjdude1219]

It is a no brainer.

360 has better games, accessories, online, and deals

PS3 has few games (less exclusives), accessories are overpriced, PSN is still on its toes, and there aren't many good deals

the accessories are priced roughly the same as 360 ones so. and i see good deals for could please try and be more objective

 

[pjdude1219]

An ironic aspect of format wars is that perceived technical superiority does not always win. Though Betamax was perceived by consumers to have better picture quality than VHS, a number of factors including VHS's longer recording time, wider range of models and suppliers, and lower cost eventually relegated Betamax to a niche market in Japan. http://www.allaboutmovies.com.au/pages/a-brief-history-of-the-dvd.php​

As you know from the Betamax v/s VHS format war, the highest quality doesn't always win. Cost is a very big issue and may have been the deciding factor in the VHS/Betamax war. The same thing could very well happen here. Really, I hope both systems continue to be produced. Competition is good for us consumers.

no vhs had super agressive marketing that why it won that and the average consumer is dumber than a box of rocks

 

[madanthonywayne]

If price was that important, you'd be seeing a surge in N64s and Dreamcasts right now.

Price is important when deciding between two largely equivalent systems such as 360 vs PS3 or Betamax vs VHS.

You can't compare a dreamcast or N64 to an Xbox 360 or PS3. It's apples and oranges.