My son at 14 wants to be a marine and kill Osamas in the desert

i notice you tend to be intimidated by conflict or heated arguments.

damn, i'm good. :D

Yes, I don't care for arguments online or in RL. One of those PTSD quirks...

Someone tried to pick a fight with one of my neighbors last year...and my hands were shaking so hard I couldn't load my damn pistol.

I really need a 12-gauge.:D
 
Yes, I don't care for arguments online or in RL. One of those PTSD quirks...

Someone tried to pick a fight with one of my neighbors last year...and my hands were shaking so hard I couldn't load my damn pistol.

I really need a 12-gauge.:D

Interesting. Those who suffer from Combat PTSD never shake with a pistol in their hands, that's they're comfort zone, where they are best equipped and feel the most confidence. They don't hesitate and that's what get's them in trouble when they are out of service usually months and years after they are out of active service.
 
I think I've talked about my brain cooties waaay too much here lately. :facepalm:
 
I think I've talked about my brain cooties waaay too much here lately. :facepalm:

Ah those aren't 'cooties', they're challenges to be overcome. And from what I can gather you are self-interested enough to fight through them..

Oh my god! That makes you your own private warrior;)
 
Little boys have been playing war since the beginning of time, they don't all grow up to be warriors even if they fancy the idea at the time. Its more childish to assume he's really interested in 'killing people' than he is caught up with the idea of being a strong warrior scaling walls and getting the enemy.
How do you know he wants to play warrior?

When a child tells a parent that they want to become a Marine specifically because they want to kill people, then it is something of a concern. I have two sons. They play star wars games and 'pew pew' each other.. That is what children do. But I would be concerned if at 14 either of them told me they wanted to kill people so they were joining the Marines..

But this is different. This 14 year old told his parents that he wants to become a Marine so that he can kill people. Not so that he can shoot big guns, or drive tanks or helicopters. But to shoot people. A bit different to playing 'pew pew' war games...


He's a boy for christ's sake!

Exactly..

How many 14 year olds do you know tell their parents that they want to join the Marines so they can 'kill Arabs in the name of Liberty' [from what the OP said]?

Jmpet didn't say his son wanted to kill 'arabs', he said his son wanted to kill 'osamas' (as in Osama bin laden) ie. terrorists. If you ask me there's nothing wrong with killing terrorists who kill muslim and non-muslims alike, they're just the right target.
Read the OP again:

"I believe it's his own opinion. He is all but a Rambo in the Boy Scouts currently and can't wait to go out and kill enemy Arabs in the name of liberty."​

I would assume the child's father has a better idea of what his child wants..

But hey, he could be just what the Marines want. Think Haditha.. :)
 
How do you know he wants to play warrior?

When a child tells a parent that they want to become a Marine specifically because they want to kill people, then it is something of a concern. I have two sons. They play star wars games and 'pew pew' each other.. That is what children do. But I would be concerned if at 14 either of them told me they wanted to kill people so they were joining the Marines..

But this is different. This 14 year old told his parents that he wants to become a Marine so that he can kill people. Not so that he can shoot big guns, or drive tanks or helicopters. But to shoot people. A bit different to playing 'pew pew' war games...




Exactly..

How many 14 year olds do you know tell their parents that they want to join the Marines so they can 'kill Arabs in the name of Liberty' [from what the OP said]?


Read the OP again:

"I believe it's his own opinion. He is all but a Rambo in the Boy Scouts currently and can't wait to go out and kill enemy Arabs in the name of liberty."​

I would assume the child's father has a better idea of what his child wants..

But hey, he could be just what the Marines want. Think Haditha.. :)

Obviously he is as his father said as much. He didn't say his child wanted to 'kill people' he said his child wanted to kill 'osamas', you know terrorist targets. Those by the way are legitimate targets, but he's only 14 and he still doesn't know what he wants from his life nor does he know what it means to be in a war situation. Jmpet is no idiot, he says he thinks his child 'might' be marine material BUT its not what he would have hoped for for his child. Children grow into their own beings and eventually make their own decisions, if his child continues to desire military service by the time he's 18 then there isn't much his father can do about it except PREPARE HIM both mentally, ethically, politically and philosophically, education and information is the only thing he can do to serve his child and after that if his child decides to join anyway his dad's choices are support or disapproval Nothing more nothing less.

Lot's of young boys say they want to join this and that for whatever reasons, many times its a warrior role or a warlock role or a hero role, nothing abnormal there. Your son said he wanted to grow up to be a rocket. Do you have him in therapy now for desiring to be a lethal weapon? Don't be such a Western Oprah-esque bloody daytime drama queen. This kid is only 14 and he can change his mind in no time and decide that some other exciting notion is his destiny. Stop pretending that young boys with a lust for warrior glory are somehow 'sick' when its really only what young boys and men do until they understand the nuances better. He doesn't know anything about war, nor will he nor can he, until he's taken the point of entering the life. Even more poignant he probably doesn't even understand himself as yet to know what he will become, could be he'll be the run of the mill educated desk executive or maybe even a scientist who creates the newest lethal weapon. But you wouldn't worry if your son decided to enter the sciences and create something completely detrimental to the human race would you? You don't call Einstein a bloody thug or executioner do you for fathering the atom bomb? What if he went into politics and turned into a Kissinger? Or a doctor who becomes a Kerovorkian? Bunch of bloody hypocrites you all are! Pretending as if being a marine is ultimately destructive as opposed to other professions. Looks like international bankers did a right good job of disenfranchising thousands into foreclosures. Do you worry that they may go into business or wall street? HYPOCRITES!!!!

Now you have a kid who's in a phase of hero-self-projection which could pass or turn him into a real soldier. And you are all here like a bunch of dumb-assess passing judgement on what you don't even know may come to pass. But if it does come to pass its not the worst that can happen and I hope his father would support him for the man wants to become knowing he's given him the qualities of a man who would have good character no matter what profession.
 
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You do a diservice for every man who ever fought in WW2 against fascism,


is there some rule of invocation here?
if not, lets make one

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ww2 or the just war becomes a certainty (gustav's law)

/snigger

i wonder if there is a sexual component to all of this fervent adulation of "warriors"

/wonders
 
I think the farce is with me...


i think the missus is training you to be a cold blooded killer

Most western trained soldiers are trained to such a high degree that casualties are minimal compared to that of those they fight. .


indeed
they call in for air support and whatnot
they then go in and sweep up the body parts

really intensive training
first world shit

HYPOCRITES!!!!


this woman is obviously mad as a hatter :rolleyes:
 
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i think the missus is training you to be a cold blooded killer

*snort*
You haven't met MY missus. She's working on it. :cool: Range fees are high and wages are low....:rolleyes:

As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving ww2 or the just war becomes a certainty (gustav's law)

Like Godwin's law. Or Murphy's.

Ok, I'll remember it.

Mrs Lucysnow:
But if it does come to pass its not the worst that can happen and I hope his father would support him for the man wants to become.

You can't always dissuade your kids when they have themselves set on something, you know...
That's the problem with reproducing.
 
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Oh shut up already you're the most here without any knowledge whether it be actual, dialectic, academic or statistical. Go and finish sucking on your lollipop. And have mommy change your diaper while you're at it.

of course you want me to shut up because i'm the only one who has exposed your stupid posts for what it is.

you didn't even get the point and you posted data that actually reinforces my point.

vietcong were very skilled. even vets who fought have noted that repeatedly. there was more hand to hand and ground warfare back then.

as for iraq etc, this is a different time and war is played out a bit differently than before which includes a lot of technology. if you have way better weapons and technology as well as larger forces, it's a foregone conclusion.

are you an idiot?
 
Pretty funny the range of responses- and opinions- you folks have come up with. Yes he is 14 and yes he plays all those "special Ops video games" and I am sure half the 14 year olds out there want to emulate that. But I think it's a little more with my son- perhaps this is what he wants, then again perhaps he will want to be a magician next month.

I will tell you this- his uncle (my brother) is a Major in the Navy and my son has little to no respect for him, as he has never seen anything close to combat- or a battleship- or an open ocean in the 20+ years he's been in the Navy. My son feels it's the responsibility of the military to be willing to go to combat and has expressed a desire to do just that.

Your son sounds very immature.
He thinks like a 14 year old.
I'd bet he's hard to deal with.

If he still has the same aggressive impulses when he is 18, hopefully he will be rejected by the Marines.

As I said very early in this thread, his vocation is a good thing not a bad one.
But he needs more experience of life.

Sam did make a good suggestion, but I have the feeling he wouldn't like the idea.
You could try it though.
 
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Obviously he is as his father said as much. He didn't say his child wanted to 'kill people' he said his child wanted to kill 'osamas', you know terrorist targets.

I reiterate:

"can't wait to go out and kill enemy Arabs in the name of liberty"​


If we look at the actions of some Marines, that would amount to anyone and everyone who is an Arab..

Follow?

But what 14 year old says he wants to go and kill people (yes, Arabs are people too)?

Those by the way are legitimate targets, but he's only 14 and he still doesn't know what he wants from his life nor does he know what it means to be in a war situation.
His father says he seems to have made up his mind..

Jmpet is no idiot, he says he thinks his child 'might' be marine material BUT its not what he would have hoped for for his child.
Well how many parents do you know who would want their son's to go overseas to kill "enemy Arabs"?

Children grow into their own beings and eventually make their own decisions, if his child continues to desire military service by the time he's 18 then there isn't much his father can do about it except PREPARE HIM both mentally, ethically, politically and philosophically, education and information is the only thing he can do to serve his child and after that if his child decides to join anyway his dad's choices are support or disapproval Nothing more nothing less.
Then he could very well end up not being Marine material.

Lot's of young boys say they want to join this and that for whatever reasons, many times its a warrior role or a warlock role or a hero role, nothing abnormal there.
Warlock role?

Your son said he wanted to grow up to be a rocket. Do you have him in therapy now for desiring to be a lethal weapon?
He also professed he wants to be a bird so he can poop on people's heads. If my son told me he wanted to kill people, I'd be a concerned. Call me strange.

Don't be such a Western Oprah-esque bloody daytime drama queen.
I have to ask. What is it with you and this obsession with day time TV? Are you projecting?

Because you seem to go on about it quite a bit and seem to accuse people or being soap stars or day time tv "queens" [that is the latest one].. Am I supposed to be insulted at being called something I don't watch but you obviously seem to watch?

Is this an American thing? Because I really don't get why you go on and on about soaps and daytime TV..

This kid is only 14 and he can change his mind in no time and decide that some other exciting notion is his destiny.
No one is saying that is not the case.

Stop pretending that young boys with a lust for warrior glory are somehow 'sick' when its really only what young boys and men do until they understand the nuances better.
Raised lots of young boys have you?

Do you view a desire to go and kill "enemy Arabs" as being "warrior glory"?

I have yet to meet a teenage boy who expresses a desire to travel overseas to kill people, even "enemy Arabs"..

He doesn't know anything about war, nor will he nor can he, until he's taken the point of entering the life.
Mmmm...

But you wouldn't worry if your son decided to enter the sciences and create something completely detrimental to the human race would you?
If my youngest son expressed an interest in a field of science that could see him develop a weapon, I'd leave the country.

You don't call Einstein a bloody thug or executioner do you for fathering the atom bomb? What if he went into politics and turned into a Kissinger? Or a doctor who becomes a Kerovorkian?
Okay.....

Bunch of bloody hypocrites you all are! Pretending as if being a marine is ultimately destructive as opposed to other professions.
Not at all.

But I would raise an eyebrow at anyone who joined the armed forces specifically so they could kill people...

Do you understand that part yet?

Looks like international bankers did a right good job of disenfranchising thousands into foreclosures. Do you worry that they may go into business or wall street? HYPOCRITES!!!!
Off the meds?

Now you have a kid who's in a phase of hero-self-projection which could pass or turn him into a real soldier.
Mmmmm..

And you are all here like a bunch of dumb-assess passing judgement on what you don't even know may come to pass
I'm sorry. I am commenting solely on what his father has said. You are the one going on about warrior and warlock heroes and then making assumption about what this child may or may not be like based on your own personal beliefs and then judging him based on that.

And you wish to talk about passing judgement? Really? You?

Heh..

But if it does come to pass its not the worst that can happen and I hope his father would support him for the man wants to become knowing he's given him the qualities of a man who would have good character no matter what profession.
One would expect any parent to support their child's choices.. unless of course said choice was set to cause harm to others, in which case you'd want to have a chat to said child.
 
so gung-ho but so weak. perhaps that's why you positively reek of adoration and infatuation with the military. you really think it's not obvious?? anyone reading back on this thread can tell you are blinded with it.
why are you so "gung-ho" AGAINST the military?
 
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