Middle Names

Discussion in 'Linguistics' started by Orleander, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Johann Sebastian Bach. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.

    In Russian it's a patronymic. Nikita Sergeyovich Khrushchev: Nikita, son of Sergei.

    The Chinese make up one-fifth of the world's population and they have middle names. So do the Koreans and Vietnamese.

    I think the reason it's so common in English (and maybe also German) is that for a long time anglophones deliberately reduced themselves to a pitifully small set of traditional names to choose from, so within a family there were likely to be several people with identical names. Germany has laws about what you can name your children. Somebody tried to name her son Schroeder after the character in "Peanuts" and the government wouldn't let her do it because that's a last name. We do it all the time in America: Jackson Brown, Taylor Hicks, Jefferson Davis, Washington Irving.

    Oh, don't forget Attila THE Hun.

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    No. J is a fricative like German CH or Russian KH, and S is (almost) always voiceless. There's an accent ague over the U so it's pronounced more-or-less khay-SOOSS. In America we usually soften that first letter to an English H so we make it hay-SOOSS. (Except in California where most of us speak some Spanish.) Jesús is a rather common given name in Spanish-speaking countries, the way Mohammed is among Muslim people.
    "Iesus" is a romanization of Greek Iesous, which itself is a Hellenization of Hebrew Yehoshua, which means "Yhwh (God) rescues." In the Roman era the Jews were speaking Aramaic and only using Hebrew in the liturgy, so in speech Yehoshua had been streamlined to Yeshua, which influenced the Greek form.
     
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  3. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    No, because it would be very labourious but I might do at some point.
     
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  5. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    in texas it's ye haw!

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  7. Strap_ON Registered Member

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    I have a middle name - Louise, quite bland name considering my first is Fallon. All my family have middles names too.
     
  8. Deathfromabove Hopeless and Useless Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry this is abit weird, Were you born in the 80's??? If so have you noticed that a large proportion of girls born then, have the middle name louise???

    My guess is that the name louise must have really been in vogue in the 1980's, (but why?????)
     
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  9. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    test tube baby Louise Brown? And it must be an English thing because here (US) it was Jessica.
     
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    I was born in the 80's. Surely my parents could have come up with something with a little more jazz?!
     
  11. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Just be happy they didn't name you something like ( Mike Hunt ) a guy I went to school with.... I never can understand how parents could be so STUPID!
    Do they not repeat it outloud???????
     
  12. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    why didn't the idiot go by Michael?
     
  13. Strap_ON Registered Member

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    I had to say that aloud before I got it - how rude

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    I once spoke to a lcustomer at my work called Tina Muff, I couldnt stop laughing, honestly nearly wet myself - dumb ass name, but kinda rocks at the same time!
     
  14. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    LOL. I worked with a guy with that name. Except he DID go by Michael.
    I can never hear that name without thinking about the movie 'Porky's'.

    I think that name is just as bad as something like Anita Dick. LOL
     
  15. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Tina Muff?? I don't get it. Why is it funny?/
     
  16. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    You know what, I think once he was known as that it was too late!!

    Look how grown adults here get a kick out of using the " C " word can you imagine in high school.
     
  17. Strap_ON Registered Member

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    Muff is slang for vagina in Britain
     
  18. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    hmmmmm was he a really big guy? and did he have a sister Veronica? lol
     
  19. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    oh

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  20. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    I' got 3 names it's not that od in my family
     
  21. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    3 middle names or a first, middle and last?
     
  22. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    1 first, 2 middle and 1 last my intitials are AVCDC
     
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    The movie "Thelma and Louise." It was all about the struggle for female empowerment. At the end when the cops were closing in on them they just drove their car off a cliff rather than be arrested and prosecuted for shooting a good-ole-boy caught in the act of rape.
    Be glad you weren't born around 1960 or your name would be Tammy or Debbie after the character in the movie or the star who portrayed her.

    Notice how no one has named a boy Adolph in the past sixty years? The TV star A. Martinez goes by A., and all his friends call him A. It turns out his name is Adolph. His parents were from Mexico and the name didn't have quite such bad karma in a non-combatant country.

    I'm always surprised that with all the unconventional names that were given to children in the late 1960s, I've never met a girl named after Barbarella.
    In the U.S. it's specifically the "muff" of pubic hair. In the 1950s and 60s, the activity the sailors from San Diego engaged in on shore leave, from their ringside tables in the Tijuana strip clubs, was called "muff diving." It engendered a lot of souvenir T-shirts that only people who had seen it could understand. I suppose with this bizarre new fad of Xtreme Shaving, the word will go out of vogue.
     

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