Let us be honest. Islam’s ideology is immoral to its core. Should we ask the Haigue and U.N. to rule

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  1. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    There is no real truth in a book that begins with a talking serpent and a God who murders his own first two children the way he did with A & E.

    As to substantive evidence, I will provide all you like when you do the same for your statements.

    Like the one where you said that God died when your own bible says that he is eternal and cannot die.

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  3. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    The media power you describe as increasingly being used to distribute open lies, is exactly what religions do, not the newspapers and mainstream press.

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  5. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    If some people need me to try that hard to show that religions that have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds are immoral, then those minds are way too corrupted for me to bother with.

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  7. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Happy to oblige, when I get a direct question that can be answered in a direct way.

    It happens that I do not agree with your opinion of this thread so you might want to tone down youe own biases against those who show more intelligence and morality than Christians and Muslims.

    What direct questions do you see me ignoring?

    Perhaps it is your own bias that does not see the direct answer.

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  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Excuses, excuses. Do you think you could post on topic, please? You know, since it's your own damn thread?

    Seriously, the slothful poseur is an overdone routine on the internet. If all you can do is change the subject, there's not much to discuss.
     
  9. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I did not change the subject. I just clarified my position.

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  10. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    No, it's intellectual sloth, and possibly fraud; I think you know you can't properly defend your thesis.

    Nobody can address any detail of your proposition because you refuse to offer any of use.

    I think we would be better off, for instance, banishing poverty:

    The majority of people spoil their lives by an unhealthy and exaggerated altruism―are forced, indeed, so to spoil them. They find themselves surrounded by hideous poverty, by hideous ugliness, by hideous starvation. It is inevitable that they should be strongly moved by all this. The emotions of man are stirred more quickly than man's intelligence; and, as I pointed out some time ago in an article on the function of criticism, it is much more easy to have sympathy with suffering than it is to have sympathy with thought. Accordingly, with admirable, though misdirected intentions, they very seriously and very sentimentally set themselves to the task of remedying the evils that they see. But their remedies do not cure the disease: they merely prolong it. Indeed, their remedies are part of the disease.

    They try to solve the problem of poverty, for instance, by keeping the poor alive; or, in the case of a very advanced school, by amusing the poor.

    But this is not a solution: it is an aggravation of the difficulty. The proper aim is to try and reconstruct society on such a basis that poverty will be impossible. And the altruistic virtues have really prevented the carrying out of this aim. Just as the worst slave-owners were those who were kind to their slaves, and so prevented the horror of the system being realised by those who suffered from it, and understood by those who contemplated it, so, in the present state of things in England, the people who do most harm are the people who try to do most good; and at last we have had the spectacle of men who have really studied the problem and know the life―educated men who live in the East End―coming forward and imploring the community to restrain its altruistic impulses of charity, benevolence, and the like. They do so on the ground that such charity degrades and demoralises. They are perfectly right. Charity creates a multitude of sins.

    Oscar Wilde↱ is correct: "The proper aim is to try and reconstruct society on such a basis that poverty will be impossible."

    As the Manifesto reminds, "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."

    And as I asked↑: Do you have anything other than your own temporal, earthly judgment and heart full of cruelty?

    This time pay attention to the terms, "temporal", "earthly", and "judgment".

    But thank you for clarifying your position that you need not answer for your uneducated, unethical, insupportable thesis.
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    Notes:

    Marx, Karl and Friedrich Engels. The Manifesto of the Communist Party. 1848. Marxists.org. 6 November 2016. http://bit.ly/2f7vcN6

    Wilde, Oscar. "The Soul of Man Under Socialism". Fortnightly Review. February, 1891. Marxists.org. 6 November 2016. http://bit.ly/1JdDOaw
     
  11. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    What detail would you like to look at for morality.

    How about child brides, FGM or the killing of apostates?

    If you have other details or tenets you wish to look at, do not be an intellectual sloth and speak up.

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    DL
     
  12. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    In other words, you are here to troll. Fair enough, and easily solved.

    Here's a free tip - refusing to engage in honest debate will not end well.
     
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