Israeli right winger endorses one state solution!

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  1. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    You wouldn't see any more Hamas fools sprouting up if you took each of them, removed their left kidneys, plucked out their eyes, tied a knot in their intestines and sent them home, covered in their own shit and urine, to die.

    No, I have a better idea. Open up skulls, and slice out the parts of their brains that make it possible for them to interpret speech and control their urine. Then send them home, otherwise unscathed. Crush them.
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Come on who the fuck is going to do that?

    On a related note, the one-state option has gain acceptance a little from what is was but is still a loooonnng way from being even brought to the table.
    http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=171559

    I think the Israeli right have a one-state solution as their secret goal as well, its just a matter getting rid of enough Palestinians first.
     
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  5. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    They are religious zealots. They are filth. If I could bring suffering into their world, I would.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Well your just one smuck, I'm asking for things that might actually have a chance of happening. Like a one-state solution for the west bank, probably after Israel has managed to clear out enough Palestinians by one way or another.
     
  8. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    and we all know you support that.
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    See another personal insults from you.

    No, I would prefer the west bank were assimilated today with it population as is, peace now, issue over with much quicker, less suffering, yadda yadda. I'm only stating my belief that the Israel right wing will assimilate it once the population is reduced enough to appease their hegemony needs, they will keep growing the settlements and find ways to kick out Palestinians in mass until the one-state solution becomes a fact defacto.
     
  10. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    My gullet craves the blood of Hamas fools. They are insects.

    They use human beings as shields. They deliberately put the elderly and children in harm's way.

    We have non-Jewish people in the region who want to make things better. Here is what Hamas does to them:

    Kadima and other parties that represent the Israeli left have shown superhuman patience with them, and it has all been for nothing because Zealots never change. They never change. All they do is murder and murder until either they have been destroyed, or they have imposed the Hell of their existence on others.

    See? People like you don't want peace. When the real crusaders for Palestine try to speak, when they try to defend their cause, people like you shut them down. People like you don't care what happens to Palestine. All you care about is making excuses to hate the Jews. You don't really care whether the Palestinians live or die. More Palestinians will die because you are too stupid to shut up.

    My gut craves Hamas blood. I drool for it. I want to see them suffer.

    And the people who fight for Fatah are heroes. Just by trying to be rational, normal human beings, they deserve a medal for the best kind of courage. The courage to believe that they have a right to live a normal life, to educate their children, and have freedom of movement in their land. The courage to remember that it's not normal to have to pass through security checkpoints on your way to work.
     
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  11. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Alien Cockroach, dude you need to lay off the meth! I don't hate jews, shit I get my check from the elders of zion in their orbital fortress every month just like them. Now I don't like the Israeli right wing and certainly don't like Hamas, but wishing death is not going to fix the issues.
     
  12. Alien Cockroach Banned Banned

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    Well, the reality of the matter is that the "one state" solution is not something that someone can just declare by planting a flag in the name of "United Palestine." It does't work that way. Before a Palestinian government can be absorbed into the broader Knesset, first there must BE a Palestinian government to speak of, and it would have to be compatible.

    And then it would be wise to have them or their representatives as observers.

    And there would need to be some kind of overarching constitution that everyone involved can agree upon.

    And there are likely to be myriad complexities to the issue that I simply lack the education to discuss with any degree of intelligence.

    Republics are built, not declared.

    Is there any part of that that makes me sound like I am trying to justify IDF soldiers shooting at pregnant women? That's what I have been accused of! It really sticks in my craw.
     
  13. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Said nothing about declaring it, just that it relatively viable. Now now now don't let pjdude1219 insult get you, I can see it has caused you deep deep emotional scares, come here into my galactic space breast its time for a huge.
     
  14. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    it not a personal insult its a logical deduction from what you support.
     
  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    well than maybe you shouldn't make statements that sounf like call for doing so

     
  16. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    No its a personal insult because you keep calling us pro-Israeli and worse epithets despite the fact that we have been critical of Israel regularly.
     
  17. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Wikipedia also quotes an estimate of 4 million Mizrahi jews in Israel as an estimate, and gives 3million+ as a firm figure. Plenty of land was made free when they were kicked out of the Muslim countries, but you need to pretend that the land they left isn't available for the Palestinians so that you can have an excuse to kick all the Jews out of Israel.
     
  18. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    when what you want helps Israel reach its goals you are pro them. and labeling for what you support isn't an insult by any definition.

    and you want to fucking bitch that I call you pro Israel and that you wish to deny the palestinians their right when you sit their and libel left and fucking right. I have to give your credit. when you go for hypocrisy you go the whole 9 yards.
     
  19. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    The Palestinians as refugees have the legal right to get their land back. maybe you should just recognize that.
     
  20. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe you should just recognize that no one ever recognized any Muslim conquests either, so if there's some give on Israel, there should be some take as well.
     
  21. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    1. What I want and what I think is going to happen is two diffrent things
    2. If what I want reaches some Israeli goals and some Palestinian goals is it still pro-Israel?

    You seem to throw it around enough as if it was a insult.

    I wish to deny Israeli rights as well, so how could I be pro-israeli?

    Nothing like when you want to bring about the same suffering of the Palestinians on the Israelis.
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yet another two-stater bows to the inevitable:

    Israel should consider a one-state solution


     
  23. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    ^ Interesting.

    And (no joke) a right-winger, a secular liberal, and a rabbi are walking toward a desegregated Israel, and the Rabbi (Jeremy Milgram) says:


    That's the hardest point of compromise. Jewish citizens must feel secure throughout the process from the present to the peace, and from the role of oppressing minority to that of a coexisting and thriving minority. That's why in my opinion it would be a just bargain to leave the name of the state as "Israel" in an enduring constitutional way, as a marker of more substantive guarantees that Israel will always remain a place where Jews may enjoy equal (but not superior) rights; To have the constitutional prerogative to call their land the (non-exclusive) Homeland of the Jews. This could be established in much the same way as the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, and Saudi Arabia (for some local examples among many others) are arbitrarily named for old minority elites. In postwar desegregated Israel, coexistence can be the hallmark of a more authentically democratic system. It's to be expected that most non-Jewish Palestinians would be prone to unofficially calling it Palestine again- but I'm confident they would also agree to a constitution granting them equal rights as Israeli citizens, across Israel and throughout the formerly-occupied and formerly-colonized territories, and wherever their Israeli passports can take them (a lot more places than present Israeli passports can, I'll wager). Such an Israel would be a model to the world, would not be plagued with pesky wars, intifadehs, kassams, freedom flotillas, boycotts, sanctions, stale UN resolutions, and all the other rotten old baggage and derision that go with it. Jewish Israelis and all their fellow citizens would certainly take much greater pride, and feel much greater security in an Israel like that, than with what we see there today.

    What has to be done is to separate the pathologically-recurring nightmares of shoah from the end of the segregated zionist state. Israel is still in a position of power, and can retain that power, turning it to the greater good through a period of desegregation, so as to minimize (along with the enthusiastic support of the wider world) any chance of golems, nakbas, shoahs, or any other nightmares belonging to the past and darkest imagination. For too long, Israel has been childishly fixated on dwindling endowments and lullabies from the USA- psychotically playing Cowboys and Indians, and fighting off terrible guilty nightmares in her sleep. Now it's time for Israel to grow up, marry Palestine. It's an arranged marriage, but the only game in town- and Palestinians are really not so bad, on closer acquaintance. It's time to start a happier life getting along in the real world, beginning with nearest neighbors and working outward. Jews fighting non-Jews in this part of the world has always been a bloody ridiculous family feud. Palestine will (I believe) gladly let Israel wear the official pants in this odd but promising new family, in exchange for ceasing the irrational and unconscionable abuse of the betrothed and (next year in Jerusalem, as they say) beloved. Most importantly- more importantly than all analogies and arrangements (and in spite of a violent national infancy) this volatile but inseparable pair must finally agree at last to stop abusing, damaging, and killing their children.
     
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