Desperate denial of General Relativity by The God

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  1. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Blue dot???
    I thought it was yellow all these years...but I am colour blind.
    We had an art competition at school and the subject was "Speed".Everyone painted race cars boats planes etc.I painted a yellow ball with four ariels and a "earth" in the background and won as clearly sputnik was the fastest thing humans had ever seen.
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  3. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Blue. 100% certain...It's relative swift movement across the sky relative to the background stars was the giveaway!
     
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  5. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't doubt you.
    Until a decade ago I thought my hair colour was brown. I was told it was actually black.
    Alex
     
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  7. river

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    What pad are your Speculative ideas . You havn't explain them yet .
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Above the pay grade of the forum troll.

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  9. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Paddoboy,

    You publicly make a claim that you have speculative ideas and when asked you avoid it ? Come on man, shoot it. For once let me know your creative side..
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yep I do and I have right on this very forum.
    But I also realize that it is just that speculative and in no way over rides any evidenced based accepted mainstream theories.
    What I speculate often about is simply that possibly what we call a BH Singularity, is simply a wormhole or ERB leading to another region of spacetime.
    I also speculate along with other experts that our Universe/spacetime may well be the "Ultimate Free Lunch"
    I'm sure you have read posts from me about those scenarios, but just like river. your sincerity is always in question.
     
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    And since this thread is in the fringes, I also have speculated that the BB is actually the arse end of a BH in another Universe......a White Hole no less.
    Again regions of cosmology where we do not as yet have anything else to offer except speculation.
    The trick is recognising that fact!
     
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    My pet speculation is that the Big Bang was an "earthquake" style event caused by two higher-dimensional branes colliding and rubbing against each other, similar to tectonic friction. The "bang" part was the initial quake, and Inflation was the aftershock. Universal expansion is because the two colliding branes are now moving apart again after their violent encounter.

    Of course I don't expect anyone to take this seriously, but it's fun to play make-believe. The problem comes when people think their imagination is some kind of divine insight into the working of reality.
     
  13. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Actually what you hypothesise re colliding branes and/or Universes, has been discussed before...A Brian Greene speculative scenario from memory

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  14. river

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    BS pad .
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Trolling again river?

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  16. river

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    BS pad because I think your " speculations " were against the mainstream .
     
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    What you think is irrelevant, illogical and inconsequential.
    Perhaps you need to define what you think speculate, or hypothesis means anyway.
     
  18. river

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    I'm right pad and you know it .

    You BS guy ; you phoney .
     
  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Of course you are.

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  20. river

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  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps you should be made aware of the title of the thread river.

    "Desperate denial of General Relativity by The God"
     
  22. river

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    So what ?

    What are your speculations pad ?
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Knock knock! Anyone home?

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    You have already classed my speculative scenarios as bullshit.

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    And not mainstream, which obviously they are not...Anything speculative or still only an hypothesis is never mainstream as a scientific theory is....you should be aware of that.....
    but still my speculation stands re the BB being the arse end of a BH in another Universe and Bh's leading via wormholes and ERB's to out pourings [white hole] of spacetime in yet other Universes.
    That and the ultimate free lunch scenario as follows is something I like......
    https://www.astrosociety.org/publications/a-universe-from-nothing/

    A Universe from Nothing
    by Alexei V. Filippenko and Jay M. Pasachoff

    Insights from modern physics suggest that our wondrous universe may be the ultimate free lunch.

    Adapted from The Cosmos: Astronomy in the New Millennium, 1st edition, by Jay M. Pasachoff and Alex Filippenko, © 2001. Reprinted with permission of Brooks/Cole, an imprint of the Wadsworth Group, a division of Thomson Learning.

    In the inflationary theory, matter, antimatter, and photons were produced by the energy of the false vacuum, which was released following the phase transition. All of these particles consist of positive energy. This energy, however, is exactly balanced by the negative gravitational energy of everything pulling on everything else. In other words, the total energy of the universe is zero! It is remarkable that the universe consists of essentially nothing, but (fortunately for us) in positive and negative parts. You can easily see that gravity is associated with negative energy: If you drop a ball from rest (defined to be a state of zero energy), it gains energy of motion (kinetic energy) as it falls. But this gain is exactly balanced by a larger negative gravitational energy as it comes closer to Earth’s center, so the sum of the two energies remains zero.

    The idea of a zero-energy universe, together with inflation, suggests that all one needs is just a tiny bit of energy to get the whole thing started (that is, a tiny volume of energy in which inflation can begin). The universe then experiences inflationary expansion, but without creating net energy.

    What produced the energy before inflation? This is perhaps the ultimate question. As crazy as it might seem, the energy may have come out of nothing! The meaning of “nothing” is somewhat ambiguous here. It might be the vacuum in some pre-existing space and time, or it could be nothing at all – that is, all concepts of space and time were created with the universe itself.

    Quantum theory, and specifically Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, provide a natural explanation for how that energy may have come out of nothing. Throughout the universe, particles and antiparticles spontaneously form and quickly annihilate each other without violating the law of energy conservation. These spontaneous births and deaths of so-called “virtual particle” pairs are known as “quantum fluctuations.” Indeed, laboratory experiments have proven that quantum fluctuations occur everywhere, all the time. Virtual particle pairs (such as electrons and positrons) directly affect the energy levels of atoms, and the predicted energy levels disagree with the experimentally measured levels unless quantum fluctuations are taken into account.

    Perhaps many quantum fluctuations occurred before the birth of our universe. Most of them quickly disappeared. But one lived sufficiently long and had the right conditions for inflation to have been initiated. Thereafter, the original tiny volume inflated by an enormous factor, and our macroscopic universe was born. The original particle-antiparticle pair (or pairs) may have subsequently annihilated each other – but even if they didn’t, the violation of energy conservation would be minuscule, not large enough to be measurable.

    If this admittedly speculative hypothesis is correct, then the answer to the ultimate question is that the universe is the ultimate free lunch! It came from nothing, and its total energy is zero, but it nevertheless has incredible structure and complexity. There could even be many other such universes, spatially distinct from ours.
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    The "Ultimate free lunch" one though, or a "Universe from nothing", may upset my other friend the god somewhat, as he prefers some elaborate magical Spaghetti monster!
    [ps: That's why he refuses to answer the question in the other thread

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