Can former atheists explain what atheism is?

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  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    You're saying that because you believe that. It's not a fact (which you appear to be claiming).
     
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  3. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    This is an atheist perspective, for whom there is no God. Only a speculative comprehension, which as effective as a man explaining what it is like to be pregnant, and give birth.
    It is not the the man is entirely wrong if his speculation happens to touch on something that could be confirmed by a mother.
    But he cannot actually know.

    In the same way you may touch on little things, that a theist can agree with, but it is not based in knowledge of experience.

    I get that it looks like wishing to believe, but in all honesty, it can’t look like anything else to an atheist who tries to explain it.

    Jan.
     
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  5. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    My bad.

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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    For some people, maybe. There are a lot of very different atheistic beliefs, cultures, and people, in the world - no doubt your attempted accusations and wrongfootings are valid for a few of them.
    Most of the atheistic people on this planet, historically, were never theistic. They needed no "reason".
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You have a wildly creative - and unfounded - conviction about what goes on in other peoples heads.


    Or, to phrase it as a Janism: You're a theist; you are unable to understand atheism. Another bed you've made for yourself to lie in.

    You contradict your own mantras at every turn.

    For Pete's sake Jan. You are modeling a hypocrite and a fool to all.
     
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  9. BlueSky Registered Senior Member

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    Care to share one?
     
  10. BlueSky Registered Senior Member

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    Care to explain?
     
  11. BlueSky Registered Senior Member

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    Ok I can meet you there. I believe it as fact based on my research. It may be a fact, and I may be right, but at this point, it’s what I believe. I guess you would have to know what I know to assess whether I am right.
     
  12. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I was never indoctrinated in any religion, so atheism was what I had. I used to say "I'm not religious enough to call myself an atheist", but that confused the believers.
     
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  13. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    Personally, I don't see any difference between theists and Atheists. They are both enslaved by a set of beliefs.
     
  14. BlueSky Registered Senior Member

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    Lol, so are you, whatever it is that you believe.
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Then, obviously, you don't know what an atheist is.
     
  16. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    A characteristic blind spot of fundie Abrahamic theists.
     
  17. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    Sure I do.
     
  18. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    That's right. I am whatever I believe... today.
     
  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    question
    If a self proclaimed atheist thinks about god, is he/she an atheist or an agnostic?
    or
    an Agnostic Atheist?


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  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Given that atheists as a whole don't have a "set of beliefs"[sup]1[/sup] you obviously don't.

    1 At least not a set that defines them as atheists. There may be other beliefs along the lines of "The sky looks very dark and cloudy therefore it'll rain soon" but that sort of belief is nothing whatsoever to do with atheism...)
     
  21. ForrestDean Registered Senior Member

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    So if we were to go strictly by terminology here then that would mean all protestant Christians must also be Satanists.

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  22. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Only if one were to subscribe to your "logic".
    There is no "set of beliefs" for atheists.
     
  23. BlueSky Registered Senior Member

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    But is what you beleive the truth?
     

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