A Fascinating Interview with Dr Gary Nolan - Stanford School of Medicine

[Ivan Seeking]

At best, it might be disclosed that the ultimate sources for this gossip among personnel are more earthly special access programs, which -- while very secretive, have little to do with recovered space alien technology.
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So you have made up your mind completely void of the facts. Got it. It must be nice to have magic knowledge. Did God tell you this or what?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Ross Coulthart, Australia, is an investigative journalist, most recently for Australian news and current affairs program 60 Minutes on Channel Nine. He was previously chief investigations reporter for the Sunday Night news program.

Coulthart has won five prestigious Walkley journalism awards, including the most coveted top award for Australian journalism, the Gold Walkley. His broadcast television investigative journalism has also won the top broadcast award, a Logie. In 2010, his reinvestigation into the murder of two young Australian tourists by IRA terrorists 20 years earlier revealed new evidence suggesting complicity in the attack by Irish Sinn Fein boss Gerry Adams.

In 2008, he uncovered one of the biggest-ever medical scandals in Australia [continued]
https://www.icij.org/journalists/ross-coulthart/

I would think you all could look this up yourselves. But I'm sure you can't be bothered.

 

[C C]

So you have made up your mind completely void of the facts. Got it. It must be nice to have magic knowledge. Did God tell you this or what?

No, it's just commonsense. Establishment UFO investigations since the mid-20th century -- and X-Files tropes (alien bodies, crashed spacecraft) -- have repeatedly fired blanks. Some people learn from that rather than expecting something different to happen.
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[Pinball1970]

Yes, except Coulthart is a highly respected, award winning journalist. Maybe the person who nominated Nolan told him. Or perhaps the information was leaked. There is no basis for attacking his credibility as a journalist. Is the person who nominated him free to talk about it? I think the answer is yes.

Did you follow the NASA project on UAPs?
What did you think?

 

[exchemist]

Watch interviews with Tim Burchett, Marco Rubio, Schummer, and the other Congress persons and Senators involved. This is common knowledge to anyone not closing their eyes and hiding under a rock. Watch the congressional testimony.

Your (collective) answers are always the same - ad hominem attacks. Same with Grusch. Anyone not afraid to learn the actual facts knows that people at the highest levels of the intelligence community have vouched for him. David Fravor was the Navy's top pilot flying our best fighter jet. Is he a crackpot too?

At what point do you consider that internet jockeys may not be the actual experts. Maybe our Senators, Congress persons, intelligence and military experts know more than y0u do. Everyone clings to one man at AARO who is clearly a cynic ignoring the best evidence, and ignore the half dozens others in similar positions, like Elizondo, who stand by this information. Look up John (Jay) Stratton. He stands by these guys as does James Lacatski, who was the
AAWSAP Program Manager. Have you ever heard of AAWSAP?

My experience has been that the debunkers and cynics refuse to make the effort to learn anything they don't want to believe. Did you watch the interview with former CIA director Brennan? Did you watch the interview with Nolan? Did you watch the Congressional hearing? Did you even know these people are involved? Does it strike you that I posted a document from 1952 from the CIA director who clearly refers to the UFO phenomena as real. Is that fake too? Was he a crackpot too? I downloaded that directly from the CIA twenty years ago.

The UFO/UAP disclosure effort is about the only bipartisan issue in Washington.

I don’t have the time to waste. I am willing to read reports from credible sources. The Irish Star is not one.

When the BBC, or the Financial Times, say, start carrying stories about crashed alien spacecraft etc, I will read those.

 

[James R]

Ivan Seeking:

Watch interviews with Tim Burchett, Marco Rubio, Schummer, and the other Congress persons and Senators involved. This is common knowledge to anyone not closing their eyes and hiding under a rock. Watch the congressional testimony.

What is common knowledge? That the government has alien spaceships and/or bodies and is hiding them? It may be common knowledge that some people have claimed that this is the case, but that's about as far as it goes, as far as I'm aware.

Your (collective) answers are always the same - ad hominem attacks.

Your main argument that all this is real, so far, seems to be that none of us here know enough about it to have discovered why it's real, like you have. Which isn't really an argument for why it's real, if you think about it.

Same with Grusch.

From what little I know of him, it seems like he is out to get his 15 minutes of fame by making some claims that he refuses to support. He has lots of excuses as to why he refuses to support them, of course, and maybe you accept those as legitimate.

Anyone not afraid to learn the actual facts knows that people at the highest levels of the intelligence community have vouched for him.

And those people have the information that he refuses to reveal? Are they going to reveal it, then?

David Fravor was the Navy's top pilot flying our best fighter jet. Is he a crackpot too?

Does the US Navy produce a ranking of its pilots from best to worst? When did Fravor win Best Pilot?

Is he a crackpot? I don't think so. I think he saw something he couldn't immediately identify and was confused about it. Since there, people have been in his ear for years about what they believe he saw, and I think he has probably realised he's on a bit of gravy train, what with the interviews and talk show circuit fees and what not. And, again, the notoriety of it all seems to appeal to him. These are just my impressions from a distance, understand. I don't think he's dishonest. I think he has become convinced that he saw an alien craft.

At what point do you consider that internet jockeys may not be the actual experts.

Does that include you and us? Or are you an exception to the rule?

Maybe our Senators, Congress persons, intelligence and military experts know more than y0u do.

Maybe they don't.

Everyone clings to one man at AARO who is clearly a cynic ignoring the best evidence, and ignore the half dozens others in similar positions, like Elizondo, who stand by this information. Look up John (Jay) Stratton. He stands by these guys as does James Lacatski, who was the AAWSAP Program Manager. Have you ever heard of AAWSAP?

No. Please feel free to educate me.

My experience has been that the debunkers and cynics refuse to make the effort to learn anything they don't want to believe.

Whereas you have a completely open mind?

Did you watch the interview with former CIA director Brennan? Did you watch the interview with Nolan? Did you watch the Congressional hearing? Did you even know these people are involved?

Did any of those things prove that the government is hiding alien spacecraft? Did I miss something?

Did you watch the interview? Do you know the people involved? Have you got some juicy inside info you'd like to share with the world? A scoop for sciforums?

Does it strike you that I posted a document from 1952 from the CIA director who clearly refers to the UFO phenomena as real. Is that fake too?

Who knows? But let's assume it's not fake. What does it mean that the CIA director refers to "the UFO phenomena" as real? Does it merely mean that the CIA director acknowledges that there are a lot of reports from people claiming to see UFOs? That sort of thing? Nobody disputes that is real.

Or was he talking about something else? Is that clear from the document? Can we see the document?

Was he a crackpot too?

In general, you mean, or just when it comes to UFOs?

I downloaded that directly from the CIA twenty years ago.

Not a cover-up, then.

The UFO/UAP disclosure effort is about the only bipartisan issue in Washington.

It keeps a certain noisy portion of the electorate happy, I guess. And distracted from more important issues, perhaps.