such a thing as ORMUS? mono-atomic elements

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  1. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    I've beem about this thing called 'ORMUS', and I'd like to hear from an actual physicist if this is a legitimate thing or not?

    ORMUS is supposedly a monoatomic element in a high-spin state. They are m-state elements have been observed to exhibit superconductivity, superfluidity, Josephson tunneling and magnetic levitation. 'It looks like these are an entirely new class of materials.'
    http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/ormus/ormus.htm

    It sounds possible, but it doesn't seem like there has been a lot, if any, scientific research on the subject. Does modern physics have anything to say about this?
     
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  3. kurros Registered Senior Member

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    I've never heard of such a thing. I don't know what monoatomic element is supposed to mean either, all elements are 'monoatomic' (i.e. made of one type of atom, or element) by definition. Unless it is being used to mean something different here.

    In short, I don't know, but it sounds like crap. That site especially seems to be totally full of crap.

    "Elements in this configuration are superconductors at room temperature" - No such thing has been discovered, it would revolutionise the world if it had been.

    "David Hudson postulates that his ORME atoms have a natural internal temperature which is very close to absolute zero. This may be why they can be Bose-Einstein condensates at room temperature and higher." - Atoms don't have 'natural internal temperatures' in any sense related to BECs in any way.

    Actually upon looking closer it appears I could do this all day, but it's not really worth it.
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    According to the link:

    Sounds like pseudoscientific bullshit to me.

    Note that no details are given about any of the claimed properties - they are merely asserted and not even explained properly.
     
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  7. Pete It's not rocket surgery Registered Senior Member

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  8. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    LOL I didn't notice the reptilian thing - yeah I'm going to agree, bullshit.
     
  9. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    When I first read the title, I thought they meant monatomic, which is a description that describes the noble gasses in that, unlike other gasses, they don't pair up as diatomic molecules.
     
  10. kurros Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm they could mean that. I think they were just pulling out of bunch of scientific sounding words though rather than actually trying to use it correctly.
     

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