Lebanon approves use of force against Israel

approves the use of force to take internationally recognized sovereign israeli territories.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3576508,00.html

 

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Mr.Spock: "internationally recognized sovereign israeli territories."

On what do you base this assertion?

For anyone interested, here is some background from the Shebaa Farms Foundation:

 

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sheeba farms were never lebanese. ragar fate was determined by the UN. those territories are under israel control. in any way they are not lebanese, nor have being.


Prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli War, this village was in Syria and the separate, smaller village of Wazzani (Ouzzani) was located immediately across the border to the north in Lebanon. When Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria in 1967, Ghajar remained as "no man's land" for two and a half months until its food reserve ran out. Lebanon refused to take control of the village as it was in 1967 totally in Syrian territory. About half of the village residents (some 350 people) left for elsewhere in Syria during this period of uncertainty. Eventually the village's leaders negotiated with the Israeli authorities and accepted living under Israeli rule[1]. In 1981 most villagers agreed to become Israeli citizens under the Golan Heights Law.


but you librelas always support the arabs right? israel can never be right.

 

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What kind of upside-down world do you live in?

When has Lebanon invaded Israeli territory, killed thousands of innocent civilians, bombed hospitals, schools, bridges, airports, blockaded ports, and occupied Israeli territory?

Israel, on the other hand, did all these 2 years ago.

The Shebaa farms do not belong to Israel. The people living in this territory are Lebanese.

Khalas.

 

Why can't Syria even acknowledge that Shebaa is Lebanese and not Syrian? If this is such a simple and obvious matter to solve, why can't Syria give up its claim to the territory? If Hezbollah attacks now after what happened 2 years ago, they're effectively saying the bombing of Lebanon is a better result than some simple negotiations on a peace treaty.

 

so the lebanese want revenge? and they are willing to use force to get it? how nice. so its not about land at all. i thought they just want peace.

ill tell you what, why not give it to the syrians, and let the lebanese sort it up with them, just like they sorted out the decades of syrian occupation in lebanon.

 

you dont get it-they dont want the sheeba farms, they want this quarrel to continue-sheeba and ragar are just an excuse.

 

It doesn't matter is its Syrian or Lebanese, the important thing is that its NOT ISRAELI.

 

Your statement is upside down:

Why can't Israel even acknowledge that Shebaa is Lebanese and not Israeli? If this is such a simple and obvious matter to solve, why can't Israeli give up its claim to the territory?

There are ISRAELI TROOPS in Sheeba Farms, not Syrian ones. Your point doesn't make any sense in this context.

 

um the farms are in an area to my knowledge was part of the land that was meant to go to israel.

 

Decided by whom? The Arabs people there living there would never give up their land. This is a grave injustice perpetuated by foreign colonists against the natives.

 

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Yes it does matter. Syria controlled the area in 1967, Israel took it from them after Syria attacked, so as long as they're still officially at war with Syria and don't have a peace treaty, why should Israel cede a territory to Lebanon that Syria still claims and could easily snatch from Lebanon at a moment's notice? Lebanon could just claim all of the Golan as theirs, and if Israel were obliged to pull out as a result, it would be Syrians taking over the region, not Lebanon. Nice try though.

 

Where's the Roman army when you need it?

 

Wrong.

Syria has officially acknowledged the Farms are Lebanese.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms belong to Lebanon. Assad told a news conference in Paris before ending a state visit to France, Beirut and Damascus will demarcate their countries' border at Shebaa Farms after Israel withdraws from the region.

Please read: http://www.shebaafarms.org/briefhistory.html

16. The Government of Lebanon subsequently provided the United Nations with title deeds of Lebanese ownership of farmlands in this area, as well as with documentation indicating that Lebanese governmental and religious institutions had enjoyed, at various points in time, jurisdiction over those farmlands. The Government of Lebanon informed the United Nations of a joint understanding between Lebanon and the Syrian Arab Republic that the farmlands were Lebanese, including a decision of a joint Lebanese-Syrian border committee that concluded in 1964 that the area was Lebanese and that the international border should be redefined consistent with that conclusion. In a telephone conversation with me [Kofi Annan] on 16 May 2000, the Syrian Foreign Minister, Mr. Al-Shara', stated that the Syrian Arab Republic supported Lebanon's claim.

UN May 2000

 

I cannot see Shebaa Farms on this map. This is a current map I found: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Shebaa_Farms.jpg

Also, what happened to the Arab state in your map?

 

So then where's the official written document bearing Assad's signature?

Israel has already invited a UN-monitored delegation to go inspect Shebaa and determine what belongs to whom. There is nothing to prevent Syria from demarcating its border with Lebanon except its disingenuous intentions to worm its way out of any verbal agreement.

 

yeah yeah...sure...just cause UN is backing up the Israeli holocaust on Palestinians does not mean it is their land.

 

Support for the Lebanese claim was reiterated in January 21, 2006, by the President of Syria in a speech before the convention of the Arab Lawyers Union in Damascus and translated into English by SANA, the official state news agency of Syria. President Bashar al-Assad stated that there are two legal requirements for demarcating the border: first, the complaint must be registered with the UN; and second, engineers must precisely define the border. As neither Syria nor Lebanon have access to the area, Assad argues that resolution is waiting on Israeli withdrawal from the occupied territory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebaa_Farms

There you have it. Now return the Shebaa farms. Otherwise Hezbollah, Lebanese, Syrian, and the entire world community have a right to call Israel an occupier and resistance is justified. Israel makes its own enemies, why don't you realize that?

 

"On 15 May 2000, the United Nations received a map, dated 1966, from the Government of Lebanon which reflected the Government's position that these farmlands were located in Lebanon. However, the United Nations is in possession of 10 other maps issued after 1966 by various Lebanese government institutions, including the Ministry of Defense and the army, all of which place the farmlands inside the Syrian Arab Republic. The United Nations has also examined six maps issued by the Government of the Syrian Arab Republic, including three maps since 1966, which place the farmlands inside the Syrian Arab Republic."