What Kind Of Beast Can Petrify 100 Starlings In Mid Flight?

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  1. common_sense_seeker Bicho Voador & Bicho Sugador Valued Senior Member

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  3. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Why do you pose the question as an assumption that some "Beast" killed the birds?
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Check out the rest of his threads and the answer will come to you

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  7. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    An ice cold bitch.
     
  8. John99 Banned Banned

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    'The only way to describe what they looked like is that they seemed to have had a fright and were petrified
     
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    What swamp gas?
     
  12. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    The Gas comming from the nearby Swamp.
     
  13. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Carbon monoxide, or carbon dioxide, even some inert gas would do it.
     
  14. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    If I may be so bold, speculating on so little information on what caused the birds deaths (Swamp gas- which I took to be in humor, CO[sub]2[/sub], fright/petrification) is as bad as speculating that it was a Passing UFO, an ultra secret government experiment or Alfred Hitchcocks ghost.

    What caused their death is unknown at this time and the clues given in one brief news article are entirely too vague, prone to interpretation and lacking in substance to base any serious speculation on.

    This occurrence is quite strange and I hope more information comes to light that enables us to deduce a likely cause with much greater certainty than guesswork.
     
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    Kipec and other area residents said police told them about an e-mail from the U.S. Department of Agriculture that discussed a program to poison blackbirds and starlings, but they were unaware of specific details.

    However, Donna Leusner — a spokeswoman for the New Jersey Department of Health and Senior Services — said Sunday night that the dead birds were part of a USDA program to reduce the European starling population.

    Leusner told The Star-Ledger of Newark that her department wasn't part of the culling program, but said it had been told of plans to feed the birds a "controlled substance." She could not say where they were poisoned or what was used to kill them.

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  16. prometheus viva voce! Registered Senior Member

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    According to the beeb, something scared a flock of starlings (like a sparrowhawk for example) and they flew into the ground, killing themselves.

    EDIT: the Daily mail is full of shit - it was 75, not 100+ starlings and they weren't "petrified," a witness saw them flying prior to hitting the ground (unless that was css's embellishment, but we all know that he is full of shit as well).
     
  17. common_sense_seeker Bicho Voador & Bicho Sugador Valued Senior Member

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    The eye-witness described this as the most likely event. What else scares flocks of birds to their death?
     
  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Post 12, anyone?
     
  19. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Surely it was the light reflected off Venus that disoriented them.

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    Unless it was a Giant Mutant Hyrax hitching a ride on a Flying Manta Ray.
     
  20. common_sense_seeker Bicho Voador & Bicho Sugador Valued Senior Member

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    That describes possible poisoning in the US. Starlings are a popular species and not a problem in the UK etc as far as I know. Although it does sound like a very likely connection unfortunately and now I guess that they migrate from the states. (Edit, I've googled this answer):
    So, nothing to do with the USA..
     
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  21. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    Me.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, but the events are similar which suggests that they can have a similar cause.
    So poison is at this point a very likely explanation.
     
  23. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Here's something to ponder and perhaps those amongst you with knowledge on the subject (actual experience in the field suggested).

    The Country is currently increasing it's trend in mobile telecommunications usage. For every single person in the country there is likely 1.75 mobile phones. (Yes some people have more than one, some people can have four or five with them at all times)

    It's likely that most children have mobile phones, There is mobile phone adapters for laptops and actual notebooks that connect directly with ISP's (Notibly in the education sector).

    The number of SMS messages sent is ever increasing, and all this requires bandwidth.

    Phones connect to a network, originally coined a "Cell-Net". The reason for this is because when you use your phone, you aren't connecting directly to a person in the same room, you connect to a network of antennas that surround you in a "cell" (a bit like a bee's honeycomb). That cell can deal with most obstructions because of the overall matrix that surrounds you, if something gets in the way of one antenna, the cellnetork automatically corrects itself and your phone to attempt to keep your signal.

    To do this correction it requires the cell antenna's to be connected to one another, rather than using expensive fibreoptics cables to connect the towers, a cheaper method is employed. The use of "Microwave dishes".

    Microwaves connect cell antenna's together so that large amounts of data can be shifted across the network. When you phone someone up who's using a mobile somewhere else in the country, you are doing so not necessarily through satellites but through the microwave dishes that makeup the cell array. (This dish mounted method allows for easy, cheap access for maintenance purposes, with the "scalability" desired for ongoing business.)

    With the advent of 3G and future 4G or greater services, the Microwave usage is going to be increasing and it's likely that anything thats in it's direct stream for a prolonged period of time is going to suffer it's wrath.

    Hypothesis 1: The Starlings flew down a microwave stream, or flew through a "Nexus" point where more than one stream collided. (This might occur in the extreme cases where more than one provider is providing a service to the same area through different arrays)

    Hypothesis 2: (completely unrelated to Mobile phones). The UK has had a recent cold weather snap, if the birds were finding it hard to find food their overall body mass is going to be low. One decent cold blust could have potentially caused the birds to suffer hypothermia, causing them to fall to their deaths.

    In both of these two Hypothesis's there would be "no poison" on autopsy.
     

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