McCain Surge? Takes lead in Zogby Poll!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by madanthonywayne, Nov 1, 2008.

  1. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Is it a blip, or the begining of the end for Mr Obama? Obama appears to be certain that the race is over. He's kicking all reporters whose newspapers endorsed McCain off his plane, banning any stations who have the temerity to ask tough questions from any future interviews, in short, he's acting like an arrogant ass. And now, for the first time since right after the Republican convention, McCain has taken the lead over Obama. Reminds me of one of those sports bloopers videos where a guys is about to cross the finish line, raises his hands to celebrate when another guy comes from behind and passes him.
    Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error... The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all...
    http://www.drudgereport.com/
    Here are some more reasons this may be happening:
    1) One poll has undecided voters at 14 percent on the last weekend, which means most of them probably really aren’t undecided, that they are either going to stay home or vote preponderantly for McCain and pull McCain across the finish line.

    2) Most pollsters are claiming the electorate this year is six to nine points more Democratic than it is Republican. That would be an unprecedented shift from four years ago, when the electorate was evenly divided, 37-37, Republican and Democratic, and a huge shift from two years ago, when it was 37-33 Democratic. A shift of this size didn’t even happen after Watergate.

    3) Obama frequently outpolled his final result in primaries, which might have many causes but might also indicate that he has difficulty closing the sale.

    4) The argument in the past two weeks has shifted, such that many undecided voters who are now paying attention are hearing about Obama’s redistributionist tendencies at exactly the right moment for McCain.

    5) The tightening in several daily tracking polls indicates a modest surge on McCain’s part that could continue through the weekend until election day. If he is behind by three or four points right now, a slow and steady move upward could push him past the finish line in first place.

    6) In terms of the electoral map, the energy and focus McCain is directing at Pennsylvania could pay huge dividends if he pulls it off. If he prevails there, it might follow that the message will work in Ohio too. And if he wins Pennsylvania and Ohio, he will probably win even if he loses Virginia and Colorado.

    7) Early voting numbers are not oceanic by any means, which may indicate the degree of enthusiasm for Obama among new voters is not something new but something entirely of a par with past candidates, like John Kerry. And they show more strength on the Republican side than most people expected.

    8) What happened with the Joe the Plumber story is that Obama has now been effectively outed as a liberal, not a moderate; and because liberalism is still less popular than conservatism, that’s not the best place for Obama to be.

    9) The fire lit under Obama’s young supporters in the winter was largely due to Iraq and his opposition to the war. The stunning decline in violence and the departure of Iraq from the front page has put out the fire, to the extent that, like the young woman who made a sexy video calling herself Obama Girl and then didn’t vote in the New York primary because she went to get a manicure, they might not want to stand on line on Tuesday.

    10) Hispanic voters, who are always underpolled, know and appreciate McCain from his stance on immigration and will vote for him in larger numbers than anyone anticipates.
    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/jpodhoretz/40841
    I loved the bit about how the Obama girl didn't even bother to go out and vote for Obama! That's just the kind of arrogance I'm looking for. McCain's always been known for his comebacks. This may be his best one yet! I know the poll I linked to is only one poll, but son of a bitch, it's good to have something to be excited about. This race is not over. Go McCain!
     
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  3. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Hahaha! It's funny seeing you get so worked up about a pointless election. Your country is going down the drain, and an idiot like McCain can only hasten the process. Quite frankly, it's a little annoying seeing you disappear when Obama is up in the polls, only to reappear shouting in triumph when the numbers tighten. If Obama loses this election, it will be due to a nationwide screw job. I know your countrymen are not gifted in math, but I'm sure most of them will understand that this formidable a lead cannot be lost in the matter of a few days.

    "Go McCain!"


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  5. camilus the villain with x-ray glasses Registered Senior Member

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    I highly doubt it. We wont know until Tuesday, but I think Obama has it in the bag. Thhe McCain campaign is ridiculous, trying to scare people with-isms from decades ago. Atleast George Bush won using a new -ism, terrorism, but using socialism wont work.
     
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  7. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    If you don't want new taxes Obama says your selfish, and Bill Richardson say that number starts at $120,000.


    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obamas-new-atta.html


     
  8. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Formidable? Obama has been up only 5-6 points for quite a while, the only polls showing him with a double digit lead are those that assume Democratic voters will outnumber Republican voters by an unprecedented margin. This election is close, Obama could very well lose and, right now, the momentum is with McCain.
     
  9. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes they can, a couple of day in the political world is a life time.
     
  10. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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  13. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    This is the link to the actual Zogby article. It says, as has been reported and is expected and normal, that the leads between the two candidates has slightly narrowed.

    http://www.zogby.com/main.htm

    Mad is spinning real hard to encourage his base. But the reality is this change in polling is nothing new or unexpected. Nor is it a big surge for Republicans as he is representing.

    In response to previous voting irregularites caused by Republicans an huge number of folks are voting early this year in order to try to ensure that their votes are counted. So even if public mood changed...many votes have already been cast.

    Three, people are mad this year and they want their vote to count. It is going to be much harder for Republicans to steal an election.
     
  14. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I don't see why you need this level of spin, we are talking baghdad bob spin here! Just two words (Bradley Effect) is all conservatives need to hope for not fictitious polls!
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    The spin from the liberals is all that is needed to show just were they are, and that they know it.

    The internals are not good.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The electoral map looks really good for Obama.
     
  17. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Count Chickens Hatch
     
  18. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    We're not counting chickens, BR- We're observing what's actually happening. Obama is keeping his lead down the home stretch, and the pollsters show it (including Zogby):

     
  19. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    In arizona with people who have already voted (17% of the voters) Obama is up 12%
     
  20. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I thought that was really funny, and I support Obama.
    He talks about building up obama's scrawny arms.
    And his skinny legs.

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    Obama is physically a bit of a shrimp.
    Maybe he would do well to go on one of Arnie's training camps.
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Like this thread? Pot Kettle Black
     
  22. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Democrats Pot Kettle Black
     
  23. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    Who is Zogby and why is their poll more accurate than all of the others?
     

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