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    Dozens died in Syria-Iran missile test

    Well, I never expected this. I feel incredibley naive...and scared. Why would they have sarin gas??


    Dozens died in Syria-Iran missile test

    Proof of cooperation between Iran and Syria in the proliferation and development of weapons of mass destruction was brought to light Monday in Jane's Defence Weekly, which reported that dozens of Iranian engineers and 15 Syrian officers were killed in a July 23 accident in Syria.

    According to the report, cited by Channel 10, the joint Syrian-Iranian team was attempting to mount a chemical warhead on a Scud missile when the explosion occurred, spreading lethal chemical agents, including sarin nerve gas.

    Reports of the accident were circulated at the time; however, no details were released by the Syrian government, and there were no hints of an Iranian connection.

    The report comes on the heels of criticism leveled by the Syrians at the United States, accusing it of spreading "false" claims of Syrian nuclear activity and cooperation with North Korea to excuse an alleged Israeli air incursion over the country this month.

    According to globalsecurity.org, Syria is not a signatory of either the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), - an international agreement banning the production, stockpiling or use of chemical weapons - or the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty (CTBT).

    Syria began developing chemical weapons in 1973, just before the Yom Kipper War. Globalsecurity.org cites the country as having one of the most advanced chemical weapons programs in the Middle East.

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    uniquely dreadful S.A.M.'s Avatar
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    That would depend on:

    What is "Jane's Defence Weekly"?

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    Stop pretending you're smart! mikenostic's Avatar
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    Hmmmm...I think some Darwin Awards need to be handed out.

    Good on Iran and Syria for bringing attention and proof to the fact that they are messing around with WMDs.


    That would depend on:

    What is "Jane's Defence Weekly"?

    Uhhhhhh.....WHAT???

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    That would depend on:

    What is "Jane's Defence Weekly"?
    I think its a British magazine cuz they do a lot of reporting on the UK. And they don't seem biased, they just reported on a UK sub blast as well.

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    Sounds like an attempt to justify Israel's raids on Syria

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander View Post
    I think its a British magazine cuz they do a lot of reporting on the UK. And they don't seem biased, they just reported on a UK sub blast as well.
    And their source for this news? Memri?

    All the sources for this news are from Israel

    'Dozens died in Syria-Iran missile test'
    Jerusalem Post, Israel - 5 hours ago
    COM STAFF Proof of cooperation between Iran and Syria in the proliferation and development of weapons of mass destruction was brought to light Monday in a ...
    Syria blast 'linked to chemical weapons': report AFP
    Report: Dozens dead in Syrian chemical weapons experiment Ynetnews
    A Syrian military installation reportedly suffered a deadly ... Jewish Telegraphic Agency
    Israel Insider - AOL News Newsbloggers
    all 19 news articles »

    http://news.google.com/news?ie=UTF-8...nG=Search+News

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    Stop pretending you're smart! mikenostic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Sounds like an attempt to justify Israel's raids on Syria
    Uh yeah. Respond to a conventional attack with sarin gas. Very noble.

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    HAHAHA

    I can't believe that's true until BBC/CBC report it. No one is that fuckin dumb...not even the most backwater Islamophile is that fuckin stupid.

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    You're assuming the news is true. Curious. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    You're assuming the news is true. Curious. Why?
    LOL, and your assuming its not. Curious, why?

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    Stop pretending you're smart! mikenostic's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    You're assuming the news is true. Curious. Why?
    It's no less true than all the shit from the links that you post in the attempts to prove whatever point you are trying to prove at the moment.

    Why did I know you were going to make some stupid statement to try to discredit something that doesn't agree with your agenda?

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    does this count? What news media needs to report it before its true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    What is "Jane's Defence Weekly"?
    The premier defence-related magazine in the world.
    Jane's is the most prestigious publisher of defence and military information, dating back over 100 years.
    They have an unparalelled reputation for non-partisanship and honesty.
    (And bloody price, IIRC I paid £350 for a year's subscription )

    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander View Post
    I think its a British magazine cuz they do a lot of reporting on the UK. And they don't seem biased, they just reported on a UK sub blast as well.
    British-based, but a world wide readership and outlets/ reporters/ sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander View Post
    does this count? What news media needs to report it before its true?
    Yes thanks. Apparently it was reported
    The July 26 explosion had been reported earlier by the official Syrian news agency Sana, which said that only 15 Syrian military personnel were killed and 50 others injured in an accident involving “very explosive products.” It made no mention of Iranian officers also being killed in the blast, which it said was not an act of sabotage

    The engineers were trying to weaponise a Syrian-made Scud missile with a range of around 300 miles when the explosion occurred.

    The Iranian engineers were working at the facility as part of a 2005 strategic co-operation agreement between the two countries, whose close ties are seen by Israel and the United States as a major threat to regional security.

    Jane’s Defence Weekly said the project included Iranian assistance to develop five pilot facilities in Syria to produce chemical weapons, allowing Syria to advance its programme of such non-conventional weapons that it began in the 1970s.
    Okay, so they are designing nonconventional weapons.

    Looks like its time for war. Or perhaps they are anticipating an attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Yes thanks. Apparently it was reported


    Okay, so they are designing nonconventional weapons.

    Looks like its time for war. Or perhaps they are anticipating an attack.
    I have no problem with a country testing weapons. We do it. But sarin gas?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander View Post
    LOL, and your assuming its not. Curious, why?
    Because of previous experience of Memri translations, which omit important parts of the news, giving it a very different bent. Like the "wipe out Israel" speech from Maddenedjedi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander View Post
    I have no problem with a country testing weapons. We do it. But sarin gas?!
    I'm guessing when you're at war with someone who has nuclear weapons and has attacked and invaded your neighbor for several years and now has you in his sights, you want something more than a stick to deter him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    I'm guessing when you're at war with someone who has nuclear weapons and has attacked and invaded your neighbor for several years and now has you in his sights, you want something more than a stick to deter him.
    But how do you control sarin gas? Its goes which ever way the wind blows.
    Have Syria and Iran been denying being in cahoots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander View Post
    But how do you control sarin gas? Its goes which ever way the wind blows.
    Have Syria and Iran been denying being in cahoots?
    I'm assuming there are ways to control it, since it has been used before and there are plenty of people willing to die for their country.

    Anyone who thinks the Iraq war and Afghanistan have created less angry people in the world are fooling themselves.

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    Anyway, aren't there ways of detecting such chemicals if you have them on your person?

    edit: yep

    A portable nerve-gas detector unveiled Monday may someday be used to protect troops in the field from chemical warfare.

    Although the current prototype is a perfect 3-foot cube, its inventors want the final product shrunk down to the size of a cell phone.
    And:

    Sailor said the miniaturized devices require less power and smaller sample requirements. He said the sensor that soldiers currently use only works when about 10 percent of the people who were there during the original exposure have already died.
    Still:

    The device zeros in on sarin, one of the deadliest chemicals around. It's not the only deadly nerve gas, but it is one of the most common.
    http://www.wired.com/science/discove.../2000/08/38306

    Chemical and biological warfare is the future.

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