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    Question How does schizophrenia start?

    How does schizophrenia start?What are it's early symptoms?When the hallucinations appear?Does it start with a nervous breakdown or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aria84 View Post
    How does schizophrenia start?What are it's early symptoms?When the hallucinations appear?Does it start with a nervous breakdown or not?
    I did some mild research into mental illnesses a while back. I don't know much but I'll try my best until someone more knowledgeable comes along.

    It's believed there's a genetic disposition towards schizophrenia, some people are more susceptible of developing it then others. I want to say it's completely based on genetics but I'm not sure.

    As it typical, different people display different symptoms. A quick google search will give you a list of most of the possible symptoms. In general, they become more confused about their reality (delusions). From what I understand, this is typically portrayed in the form of paranoia, that is, they may believe people are trying to harm them (not just physically), even if there's no evidence to suggest this.

    Hallucinations do not always occur in schizophrenics. It's just one of those blaring red lights that isn't typical of other mental disorders. As well, it can be hallucinations of any of the senses, not just sight and sound. They can also feel, taste or smell things that aren't there.

    It is generally accepted that some traumatic episode will "jumpstart" schizophrenia, but I don't think this is necessary. Schizophrenia is a degenerative disease, that can just get to much for the individual to handle without proper medication or therapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aria84 View Post
    How does schizophrenia start?
    Second or third post, usually.




    (Actually: trauma, normally. Though there are underlying predisposing genetic variants.)

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    I'd think society can induce it and make it worse as time goes by. TV, newspapers, movies and on and on all contribute to many psychological problems people have today.

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    You're all asking the wrong question.

    You should be asking yourself Is the government spying on schizophrenics enough?

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    It tends to start in early adulthood. Symptoms may manifest in any number of ways, for instance- hallucinations, voices, paranoia, disinterest in life or work, inability to form lasting friendships or relationships...

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    Prodromes (according to Dictionary.com):
    pro·drome   /ˈproʊdroʊm/ Show Spelled[proh-drohm] Show IPA
    –noun Pathology .
    a premonitory symptom.
    According to the ever-so-handy Wikipedia (article on Schizophrenia):
    To minimize the developmental disruption associated with schizophrenia, much work has recently been done to identify and treat the prodromal (pre-onset) phase of the illness, which has been detected up to 30 months before the onset of symptoms, but may be present longer.[11] Those who go on to develop schizophrenia may experience the non-specific symptoms of social withdrawal, irritability and dysphoria in the prodromal period,[12] and transient or self-limiting psychotic symptoms in the prodromal phase before psychosis becomes apparent.[13]

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    I have noticed with my friend, that there are physical symptoms, a red puffy face.

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    Really? As in right before an attack?

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    Yes, just before and during. I could just look at him and know if he was going to be coherent or not. It is strange, almost like an allergy attack or something.

    Or it could just be the result of insomnia.
    Last edited by spidergoat; 06-28-10 at 02:33 PM.

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    Acute insomnia is prodromic of schizophrenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aria84 View Post
    How does schizophrenia start?What are it's early symptoms?When the hallucinations appear?Does it start with a nervous breakdown or not?
    Schizophrenia is technically not one single condition, it's a montage of various ailments, so not all people that suffer the generalised Schizophrenia are exactly the same.

    If one is dangerously paranoid it doesn't mean another person will be dangerous while being paranoid. This is one of the problems with classification because some people tend to react as if all schizophrenics are knife wielding psychopaths. This of course is pretty rude and doesn't help sufferers of the condition as it can make them more insuler and reclusive since they don't have to just content with their own problems but those that others choose to have about them.

    Schizophrenic conditions build up over time, it can be down to various genetic traits, although what is more likely is that families that have schizophrenic suffers will likely be in close environment, perhaps having arguements constantly which in turn could generate various uncontrollable outbursts. They could be just vocalised torrids of abuse or on escalation perhaps the damaging of door or wall panels between siblings or parent-child arguments.

    "Hallucinations" are not apparent with every person diagnosed with Schizophrenia, this is a stereotypical misconception.

    As for "Nervous breakdowns", if somebody has one they will enter into a self-diagnostic frame of mind, constantly pondering about what could have been done to advert it, what triggered it and questioning if it will reoccur in the future. These questions generate a egocentric subconcious concern that will nag/niggle at them, this will then be greatly amplified if people around them treat them like the stereotypical "psychopath", when really they just need a bit of help getting to terms with what happened and how to deal with any potential future occurances.

    If left to their own self-diagnostic frame of mind with no external support to aid them or just support them, then they will likely suffer alone and thats were such conditions can be suggested to manifest.

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    I'm not sure where it begins in the mind, but it can be fueled by sites like this:
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/index.php

    (extreme woo warning)

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    I'm not sure where it begins in the mind, but it can be fueled by sites like this:
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/index.php

    (extreme woo warning)
    Yes, we both agree. Don't we? Yes we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmictraveler View Post
    I'd think society can induce it and make it worse as time goes by. TV, newspapers, movies and on and on all contribute to many psychological problems people have today.
    You're forgetting music! Music has to be a bigger contributor than newspapers, or TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aria84 View Post
    How does schizophrenia start?What are it's early symptoms?When the hallucinations appear?Does it start with a nervous breakdown or not?
    Just curious, why do you ask?

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    Originally Posted by Aria84
    How does schizopnrenia start? What are the early symptoms? Whan the hallucinations appear? Does it start with a nervous breakdown?
    It can began with the sensation of isolation. Keep in kind that a schizophrenic can feel isolated in a room full of people that love them. The early warning signs are social withdraw. Hallucinations and nervous breakdowns are not always relevent. Most of the time a schizophrenic will imagine that everyone else thinks less of them and they continually dwell on that idea.

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    For the schizophrenic, they will see people withdraw from them. They often have no idea why. In the case of my friend, he remained very social, but his friends including me eventually saw that between him and his co-dependent mother, the side effects of the drugs (and paranoia about synthetic drugs in general), occasional police involvement and arrest, and lack of the will to hold a job, there wasn't much hope for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygys View Post
    Just curious, why do you ask?
    I have a friend who his doctor tells that he is schizophrenic,and he has had a nervous breakdown,I wanted to know what the relations between these,because I had read that nervous breakdown if it dosen't been treated can be trasform to psychose et shizophrenia but whether the in schizophrenia as an illness it exist or not,that was something that I wanted to know

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    I don't think "nervous breakdown" is a real diagnosis, it's more of a cumulation of personal and psychological issues. I think it's unlikely that having a nervous breakdown would cause schizophrenia, probably the other way around.

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