05-02-10, 10:27 PM #21
05-02-10, 10:34 PM #22
what of though the interior of the H2O molecule ?
05-02-10, 10:38 PM #23
05-02-10, 10:44 PM #24
05-02-10, 10:48 PM #25
And how do you get an "interior" when the thing consists of 3 atoms?
It's hardly enclosed.
And what do you mean "what of it?"
05-02-10, 10:54 PM #26
water is made up of three explosive parts, yet it puts out fire amazing really.
05-02-10, 11:02 PM #27
05-02-10, 11:05 PM #28
You're probably better off replying to your own posts, since you haven't, so far, managed to express yourself very clearly to anyone else.
What exactly do you mean by "parameter"?
That would be why it's called a "shell".
Water molecules attach themselves to the surface of whatever's put into it.
05-02-10, 11:17 PM #29
It is completely within the expectations of water - as long as you're willing to apply a little common sense and logic to the situation.
The only thing that particularly mystifies me about water is how certain groups of people continue to misunderstand or misrepresent it.
If this thread doesn't strt making sense soon, and questions don't start being addressed, I'm going to move it to Pseudoscience.
05-02-10, 11:51 PM #30
Water is interesting.
It expands when it turns into a solid - hence it is less dense and floats, so freshwater fish don't get flattened.
It is transparent.
It has a very heat of vaporization - making sweating effective.
For its mass it has melting and boiling points.
The H-O-H angle is close to the ideal tetrahedral angle.
Very high specific heat.
High surface tension - which helps capillary action.
Good absorber of heat.
High specific heat index - works well as a coolant, that is.
Strong intermolecule hydrogen bonding.
It is the only substance found naturally on earth in all three states: solid, liquid and gas.
It has a big range as a liguid, most other substances do not have such a range.
It is not a coincidence that we are water-based.
It is an excellent solvent.
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05-02-10, 11:58 PM #31
05-03-10, 12:26 AM #32
05-03-10, 12:36 AM #33
Found a couple of others I did not know.
It moves more freely when it is squeezed.
Interesting that they noticed that water's anomalous properties have to do with increased order.
And then snow crystals are rather interesting. But I don't know how unique this is since not so many liquids fall from the sky and freeze.
Here's another article on water's anomalies
where they say......
Water exhibits 66 known anomalies
This was interesting also
Nils*son and col*leagues re*cently di*rect*ed pow*er*ful X-rays at sam*ples of liq*uid wa*ter. Their re*sults sug*gested the text*book mod*el of wa*ter at or*di*nary con*di*tions was wrong and that, un*ex*pect*edly, two dis*tinct struc*tures, ei*ther very disor*dered or very tet*ra*he*dral, ex*ist no mat*ter the tem*per*a*ture.
In a pa*per pub*lished in the journal Pro*ceed*ings of the Na*tional Acad*e*my of Sci*ences, the re*search*ers re*ported the ad*di*tion*al finding that the two types of struc*ture are spa*tially sep*a*rat*ed, with the tet*ra*he*dral struc*tures ex*isting in “clumps” made of up to about 100 mol*e*cules sur*rounded by disor*dered re*gions. The liq*uid is a fluc*tu*at*ing mix of the two struc*tures at tem*per*a*tures rang*ing from am*bi*ent to all the way up near the boil*ing point. As the tem*per*a*ture of wa*ter in*creases, few*er and few*er of these clumps ex*ist; but they are al*ways there to some de*gree, in clumps of a si*m*i*lar size. The re*search*ers al*so found that the disor*dered re*gions them*selves be*come more disor*dered as the tem*per*a*ture rises.
05-03-10, 12:42 AM #34
It is also true of Gallium, Bismuth, Germanium, and Silicon, and may also be true of Acetic acid and Antimony (but there's reason to suspect this may be an error.
We evolved to be water based because water was the best substance available to fullfill the role that it does.
05-03-10, 01:01 AM #35
05-03-10, 02:41 AM #36
Dwyddyr- stop poking for an answer. Water gets LIGHTER as it freezes; it is the universal solvent etc. etc. Water is the #1 prerequisite for life for these reasons... whatever we ever find, it will be water bags like us.
05-03-10, 02:49 AM #37
I've already demonstrated how most of these claims are far from being unique when it comes to water, and water is far from being the universal solvent.
To give one example.
As far as not poking for answers... Are you saying that only some assertions should be questioned?
05-03-10, 02:51 AM #38
Here is a cool Interview of "Masaru Emoto" and his work with water crystals.
And here is crystals while playing different national anthems.
05-03-10, 12:32 PM #39
05-03-10, 01:42 PM #40
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