Purpose of Life

akoreamerican said:
What happens to everything you do or thought about when you die? Poof...
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While I grant that many people may want a legacy, I have yet to hear why that means everyone - without exception - must desire it as their primary purpose.

I'm not asking why a lot of people might feel that way, or why it's really important to many, I'm asking why you think that it is an objective property of people (i.e. a rule that is beyond free will), not a subjective property.
 
I am still deeply convinced, that we are all immortal and that materialism is a wrong approach. Only with such opinion it makes real sense to talk about the purpose of life.
I know it is almost impossible to convince people, who have already another fixed world view. But people, who are still looking for a believable belief, may find some ideas at rational-weltanschauung.blogspot.com and in the book from William Buhlman "Adventures in the Afterlife". The first part of this book gives a detailed description of the afterlife. If you read this open-minded it will become a real eye-opener!
 
Hermann said:
and in the book from William Buhlman "Adventures in the Afterlife". The first part of this book gives a detailed description of the afterlife. If you read this open-minded it will become a real eye-opener!
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I'm interested in the so called afterlife but really don't have time to chase after reading Adventures in the Afterlife

However I would be appreciative, since you appear to have detailed knowledge of the book, if you might answer a few questions

How did the author get to the afterlife?
How long did author spend there?
How did the author return to the before the afterlife life?

Thanks

:)
 
Michael 345 said:
I'm interested in the so called afterlife but really don't have time to chase after reading Adventures in the Afterlife

However I would be appreciative, since you appear to have detailed knowledge of the book, if you might answer a few questions

How did the author get to the afterlife?
How long did author spend there?
How did the author return to the before the afterlife life?

Thanks

:)
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William Buhlman is one of the rare people, who is able to OBE (Out of Body Experience), which he can initiate by himself. He does this since 40 years. He could travel in the afterlife over hours and could always return easily just by thinking of his body. After he has been diagnosed of cancer some years ago, he has spent most of his time during OBE in order to find out, what happens with most people after death. He has put all his experience in a story of a fictive character for better understanding.
 
Hermann said:
OBE (Out of Body Experience)
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Oh so he wasn't dead. Got it. Con artist making money from make up stuff

Along the lines of bullshit artist Joseph Smith who I reckon would have been great selling books in the current climate

:)
 
Michael 345 said:
Oh so he wasn't dead. Got it. Con artist making money from make up stuff

Along the lines of bullshit artist Joseph Smith who I reckon would have been great selling books in the current climate ......:)
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I wonder if Carlos Castaneda had after-life experiences or if he was just a stoner.
Carlos Castaneda was the enigmatic author of several best-selling books about the mystical teachings of don Juan Matus, a Yaqui Indian shaman from Sonora, Mexico, first introduced to audiences in 1968’s The Teachings of don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge. Castaneda’s other books continued the story, with don Juan (or his companion, don Genaro) playing the wise descendant of ancient Mexican shamans and Castaneda playing the dim but earnest student. The short version: Castaneda met don Juan at a bus station in Arizona in 1960 and learned that getting stoned in the desert opened doors to new perspectives on reality. Castaneda, though, had a tough time overcoming his Western rationalism and grasping ancient Mexican mystical stuff. His books about don Juan were originally presented as a scholarly anthropological study, but Castaneda’s credibility gradually came to be called into question. To this day the debate goes on — was Castaneda a brilliant anthropologist and philosopher, or was he a world class charlatan?
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Personally I go with just a stoner
 
Hermann said:
OBE (Out of Body Experience)
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IMO, an out-of-body-experience is impossible. By definition it is only the body, the physical object which can "experience" change, from quantum mechanics to physical (brained) thought.

As Anil Seth observed, humans can only make "best guesses" of reality to begin with, and that still requires a brain.
https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality

Stuart Hameroff goes even deeper and proposes that awareness of change itself is a quantum function of the micro tubulins in the body of most organisms.
Stuart Hameroff (born July 16, 1947) is an anesthesiologistand professor at the University of Arizona known for his studies of consciousness and his controversial contention that quantum states in neural microtubules are responsible for its emergence.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Hameroff
 
sideshowbob said:
The buses don't go where he lives.
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Turns out he wasn't really dead
He made himself have a Out of Body experience
In today's parlance fake death
Slipped the ferryman a few $s
Oh wait that's Hades

Seems he sipped past StPeter a few times
Looked around
Came back
Put his body back on
Wrote a book - as you do in situations like that

I'm guessing StPeter would be pissed off with ol Bill coming and going as if he owned the place


:)
 
Hermann said:
I am still deeply convinced, that we are all immortal and that materialism is a wrong approach. Only with such opinion it makes real sense to talk about the purpose of life.
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Our purpose in life is procreation, same as for all living organisms. Darwinian Evolution and Natural Selection are founded on that simple Imperative.
 
sideshowbob said:
I read that as "procrastination". :)
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Depends, procreation can be a very difficult task that requires hard work and great care. I am coming from the standpoint that all living organisms have the innate Imperative to procreate.

This imperative can already be found in viruses, which are not even considered to be alive.
A virus is a small infectious agent that replicates only inside the living cells of other organisms. Viruses can infect all types of life forms, from animals and plants to microorganisms, including bacteria and archaea.........

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Virus classificationGroup:I–VIIGroups
I: dsDNA viruses
II: ssDNA viruses
III: dsRNA viruses
IV: (+)ssRNA viruses
V: (−)ssRNA viruses
VI: ssRNA-RT viruses
VII: dsDNA-RT viruses
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus

I would say this is the first parasitic organism.
 
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Write4U said:
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Depends, procreation can be a very difficult task that requires hard work and great care.
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In the western world, a lot of people are putting off procreation until later in life. After all, procreation is more than just laying the eggs and fertilising them. It's also important to make sure that the offspring have a decent chance at survival.
 
sideshowbob said:
In the western world, a lot of people are putting off procreation until later in life. After all, procreation is more than just laying the eggs and fertilising them. It's also important to make sure that the offspring have a decent chance at survival.
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Insects are exempt from this. They procreate in overwhelming numbers which would soon overtake all food sources if it were not for a very high death rate to keep the population in check.
Being Queen
  • By Peter Tyson
  • Posted 11.20.07
  • NOVA
Like their counterparts in human society, Nature's queens seem to have it all. They're pampered, fed, guarded, and don't have to lift a finger except to produce royal heirs. But being queen isn't all peaches and cream. Queens of all kinds of social animals—ants and termites, certain species of bees and wasps, and the sole social mammal, the naked mole rat—are under constant pressure to produce new generations and to hold onto their reproductively supreme positions.
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In just a few days, a single army ant queen can lay up to 300,000 eggs.
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/nature/being-queen.html

An army ant queen is unable to walk and is dragged by the royal escort and her legs just wear down to little stumps. Not a very luxurious life......:eek:
 
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Write4U said:
Our purpose in life is procreation, same as for all living organisms. Darwinian Evolution and Natural Selection are founded on that simple Imperative.
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So what do you say to all those of us who have chosen paths other than procreation?

We are qualitatively different from other animals in that we can look at ourselves, know we are mortal, and decide what we wish to do with the time we have.

sideshowbob said:
In the western world, a lot of people are putting off procreation until later in life.
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In many parts of the world, people are putting off procreation completely.
 
Write4U said:
Our purpose in life is procreation, same as for all living organisms. Darwinian Evolution and Natural Selection are founded on that simple Imperative.
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Which does not seem to make sense if catholic priest / nuns not allowed to marry (the sanctioned way to procreate)

But does make sense to ban condoms

Shift the burden of churning out believers. Let the minions carry the cost of raising the next batch of executives while keeping the current executives in luxury

:)
 
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