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There is, of course, a lot of chatter this morning about the Republican debacle in Cleveland last night; while Steve Benen's↱ notes are hardly definitive, he does raise a contrast worth considering. Early in the debate, moderator Bret Baier asked the candidates to raise their hands: "Who is unwilling tonight to pledge your support to the eventual nominee of the Republican party and pledge to not run an independent campaign against that person?"
The larger msnbc line seems to be pretty much what (ahem!) everyone is thinking, that FOX News doesn't just want to host the debates as a journalistic outlet, but, rather influence the nominating process as a political actor. Rachel Maddow gave most of her show last night to detailing the almost hilarously insidious mistreatment of the seven candidates at the so-called "kids table", and the truth is that it's really hard to reject that accusation without pretending FOX News knows nothing about either television production or politics.
But there is something more important than the internecine Republican fighting, and that would seem to be Republican voters. Donald Trump, ultimately, is the Bully Clown.
The emerging problem for the GOP is that Trump's candidacy reinforces the image of the GOP as a bully party; for all conservatives disdain being accused of racism and sexism and supremacism, these are apparently the reasons Republican voters are drawn to Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, one of the most newsworthy lines of the night came from the "kids' table", and has, predictably, been completely buried in this morning's coverage. Sen. Lindsey Graham's (R-SC) performance last night was curious to say the least, but while most of the press is focused on hisodd biographical appeal, that if you live through terrifying, dangerous circumstances for several years, someday you can say America is worth the wait. And that was his answer to the question of what he would tell a child whose father he is deporting. You know, removing from America. oddly subdued tone and diction, his best line all night was to challenge his fellow Republicans on warmongering:
Mr. Graham may be a weak candidate in market terms, but he struck true on that count. The thing is that it seems pretty obvious Republicans want a war, but the South Carolina senior is the only one who seems willing to come right out and say it. The Florida junior, Sen. Marco Rubio (R), has adopted a warmongering motto recalling PNAC, the Bush Doctrine, world domination, and the Iraq invasion; he skips intelligence briefings on various issues, most recently the P5+1 nonproliferation accord, in order to attend campaign events and denounce the lack of information coming from the Obama administration. But the one thing he seems unwilling to do is publicly acknowledge what he's after.
It is no mystery why Graham's truculent posture will play poorly with a war-weary electorate, and that reminds why other Republicans are afraid to be honest on this count. Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) wants a war with China↑; Jeb Bush has signaled his desire to rumble with Russia↱, though in classic political form, he also tried to say, "I'm not talking about being bellicose, but saying, 'here are the consequences of your actions'"↱. What consequences? Further sanctions? That an attack on one NATO member state is an attack against all NATO member states? At that point, yes, Mr. Bush is talking about warfare. "There are things we coud do given the scale of our military," Mr. Bush explained in Berlin two months ago, "to send a strong signal that we're on the side of Poland and the Baltics and the countries that truly feel threatened by the little green men and this new cyber warfare and these other tactics that Russia now is using."
This is a very important issue, and Mr. Graham, rhetorically speaking, has the initiative. But rhetorical logic generally doesn't apply in the electoral marketplace, and FOX News has managed to turn the GOP presidential contest into a farcical bazaar.
I would actually like to hear Mr. Graham's fellow Republican candidates, especially the frontrunners, answer his challenge. Either admit they're sending troops somewhere, or explain why the hawk from South Carolina is wrong.
And, really, a substantive foreign policy debate would offer better returns for the nation than a reality television pageant. Indeed, sensing the opportunity, former New York Governor George Pataki answered the bell:
Then again, he's George Pataki, and Republican voters aren't listening to him right now. They're too enamored with the Bully Clown and cheering misogyny. Or, you know, if you don't like that characterization, blame FOX News.
Notes:
Benen, Steve. "A debate literally and figuratively centered around Donald Trump". msnbc. 7 August 2015. msnbc.com. 7 August 2015. http://on.msnbc.com/1DzdgTc
Sutton, Scott. "Lindsey Graham says he would 'monitor a mosque' to beat ISIS". The Sun Times. 6 August 2015. National.SunTimes.com. 7 August 2015. http://bit.ly/1TbcOwm
Martin, Michelle. "Putin is a 'bully,' U.S. needs to respond resolutely: Jeb Bush". Reuters. 10 June 2015. Reuters.com. 7 August 2015. http://reut.rs/1MSfeRD
Linzer, Dafna. "Bush tries to throw blame for Iraq on Obama but can't shake family legacy". msnbc. 6 August 2015. msnbc.com. 7 August 2015. http://on.msnbc.com/1UrTEEZ
There is, of course, a lot of chatter this morning about the Republican debacle in Cleveland last night; while Steve Benen's↱ notes are hardly definitive, he does raise a contrast worth considering. Early in the debate, moderator Bret Baier asked the candidates to raise their hands: "Who is unwilling tonight to pledge your support to the eventual nominee of the Republican party and pledge to not run an independent campaign against that person?"
Trump, who's repeatedly raised the prospect of a third-party campaign, raised his hand, drawing audience boos. He added, "If I'm the nominee, I will pledge I will not run as an independent," which was unintentionally funny, but didn't seem to impress anyone.
But notice what happened the next time Trump was in the spotlight. Fox's Megyn Kelly asked the candidate, "Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter. However, that is not without its downsides, in particular, when it comes to women. You've called women you don't like 'fat pigs,' 'dogs,' 'slobs,' and 'disgusting animals.'"
Trump quickly interjected, "Only Rosie O'Donnell."
For many viewers, it was an ugly and offensive moment, but the audience that had booed Trump minutes earlier seemed to love it. Trump was back on track – the Caricature Candidate was putting on the show that has propelled him to the front of the pack, condemning "political correctness" and basking in the warm applause of entertained voters.
Going into the debate, one of the key questions was which Republican would try to take Trump down. The answer, oddly enough, was Fox News.
But notice what happened the next time Trump was in the spotlight. Fox's Megyn Kelly asked the candidate, "Mr. Trump, one of the things people love about you is you speak your mind and you don't use a politician's filter. However, that is not without its downsides, in particular, when it comes to women. You've called women you don't like 'fat pigs,' 'dogs,' 'slobs,' and 'disgusting animals.'"
Trump quickly interjected, "Only Rosie O'Donnell."
For many viewers, it was an ugly and offensive moment, but the audience that had booed Trump minutes earlier seemed to love it. Trump was back on track – the Caricature Candidate was putting on the show that has propelled him to the front of the pack, condemning "political correctness" and basking in the warm applause of entertained voters.
Going into the debate, one of the key questions was which Republican would try to take Trump down. The answer, oddly enough, was Fox News.
The larger msnbc line seems to be pretty much what (ahem!) everyone is thinking, that FOX News doesn't just want to host the debates as a journalistic outlet, but, rather influence the nominating process as a political actor. Rachel Maddow gave most of her show last night to detailing the almost hilarously insidious mistreatment of the seven candidates at the so-called "kids table", and the truth is that it's really hard to reject that accusation without pretending FOX News knows nothing about either television production or politics.
But there is something more important than the internecine Republican fighting, and that would seem to be Republican voters. Donald Trump, ultimately, is the Bully Clown.
The emerging problem for the GOP is that Trump's candidacy reinforces the image of the GOP as a bully party; for all conservatives disdain being accused of racism and sexism and supremacism, these are apparently the reasons Republican voters are drawn to Donald Trump.
Meanwhile, one of the most newsworthy lines of the night came from the "kids' table", and has, predictably, been completely buried in this morning's coverage. Sen. Lindsey Graham's (R-SC) performance last night was curious to say the least, but while most of the press is focused on his
One thing I want to be clear about tonight. If you're running for president of the United States and you don't understand that we need more American ground forces in Iraq and that America has to be part of a regional ground force that will go into Syria and destroy ISIL in Syria, then you're not ready to be commander in chief. And you're not serious about destroying ISIL.
(Sutton↱)
(Sutton↱)
Mr. Graham may be a weak candidate in market terms, but he struck true on that count. The thing is that it seems pretty obvious Republicans want a war, but the South Carolina senior is the only one who seems willing to come right out and say it. The Florida junior, Sen. Marco Rubio (R), has adopted a warmongering motto recalling PNAC, the Bush Doctrine, world domination, and the Iraq invasion; he skips intelligence briefings on various issues, most recently the P5+1 nonproliferation accord, in order to attend campaign events and denounce the lack of information coming from the Obama administration. But the one thing he seems unwilling to do is publicly acknowledge what he's after.
It is no mystery why Graham's truculent posture will play poorly with a war-weary electorate, and that reminds why other Republicans are afraid to be honest on this count. Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ) wants a war with China↑; Jeb Bush has signaled his desire to rumble with Russia↱, though in classic political form, he also tried to say, "I'm not talking about being bellicose, but saying, 'here are the consequences of your actions'"↱. What consequences? Further sanctions? That an attack on one NATO member state is an attack against all NATO member states? At that point, yes, Mr. Bush is talking about warfare. "There are things we coud do given the scale of our military," Mr. Bush explained in Berlin two months ago, "to send a strong signal that we're on the side of Poland and the Baltics and the countries that truly feel threatened by the little green men and this new cyber warfare and these other tactics that Russia now is using."
This is a very important issue, and Mr. Graham, rhetorically speaking, has the initiative. But rhetorical logic generally doesn't apply in the electoral marketplace, and FOX News has managed to turn the GOP presidential contest into a farcical bazaar.
I would actually like to hear Mr. Graham's fellow Republican candidates, especially the frontrunners, answer his challenge. Either admit they're sending troops somewhere, or explain why the hawk from South Carolina is wrong.
And, really, a substantive foreign policy debate would offer better returns for the nation than a reality television pageant. Indeed, sensing the opportunity, former New York Governor George Pataki answered the bell:
Former New York Gov. George Pataki sought to distance himself from Graham, and noted that his two sons had served in the military – one in Iraq and the other in Afghanistan.
"I don't agree that we're going to occupy and spend another decade or a trillion dollars," Pataki said. "What we need to do is destroy their ability to attack us here over there, and then get out."
"I don't agree that we're going to occupy and spend another decade or a trillion dollars," Pataki said. "What we need to do is destroy their ability to attack us here over there, and then get out."
(Linzer↱)
Then again, he's George Pataki, and Republican voters aren't listening to him right now. They're too enamored with the Bully Clown and cheering misogyny. Or, you know, if you don't like that characterization, blame FOX News.
Correction, 9 August 2015: In the moment, it seems I overlapped two candidates; the odd biographical appeal came from former Sen. Rick Santorum; Sen. Graham's performance was more noteworthy for a strange appearance of lacking ... well ... as much as I loathe the word on these occasions, verve. My apologies; it really was a silly transposition.
____________________Notes:
Benen, Steve. "A debate literally and figuratively centered around Donald Trump". msnbc. 7 August 2015. msnbc.com. 7 August 2015. http://on.msnbc.com/1DzdgTc
Sutton, Scott. "Lindsey Graham says he would 'monitor a mosque' to beat ISIS". The Sun Times. 6 August 2015. National.SunTimes.com. 7 August 2015. http://bit.ly/1TbcOwm
Martin, Michelle. "Putin is a 'bully,' U.S. needs to respond resolutely: Jeb Bush". Reuters. 10 June 2015. Reuters.com. 7 August 2015. http://reut.rs/1MSfeRD
Linzer, Dafna. "Bush tries to throw blame for Iraq on Obama but can't shake family legacy". msnbc. 6 August 2015. msnbc.com. 7 August 2015. http://on.msnbc.com/1UrTEEZ
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