Pasadena shooting of criminals, your views?

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  1. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    No, what he did was illegal. He killed 2 men over stuff that wasn't even his. There was no threat to anyone's life. It was just stuff. He took the law into his own hands because he and he alone decided he could.
     
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  5. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    He fired two shots with a shotgun and only struck each man once? He should definitely be brought up on charges. People with aim that bad don't deserve to be loose on the streets.
     
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  7. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Unless they were armed, he's getting charged with murder, manslaughter at the very least. In a situation like that, if they run away, you may not shoot them. You are only allowed to use lethal force if you feel your life is threatened. Someone running away from you, even if they have property that belongs to you, does not constitute a threat to your life.
     
  8. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    If you listen to the recording he was a scared old man with very strong feeling that what was happening was wrong. I don't think he was thinking straight at the time and he certainly didn't enjoy the experiance or in anyway create the situation. He found himself in a situation in which his feelings of justice were so strong that we was not going to let it pass.
     
  9. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Fuck those thieves. It's not like this is their first or will be their last time stealing things from someone else's home. Most crimes are commited by the same groups of people, not one-time accounts. What happens next time when the home is occupied with just a mother feeding her baby, or even come armed, or not armed but still become violent to grab what they want. Let's see whatcha do over that when you become the victim of a crime gone wrong.

    And it's only property, psssh. Even just a small bag can be worth a lot. Some fucker robbed by grandparent's home once and only took some jewelry. But guess what? They were old English heirlooms worth over $200k, worth more than their house at the time.

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  10. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Why would anyone want to protect a thief?
    Why would anyone give any "rights" to someone who was blatantly violating the rights of others, and trying steal from others?
    Why does any society on Earth want such people in their midst?

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  11. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    As long as thieves are set free and roam the streets, knowing they're out there, it makes them feel that there's at least some people they're better than. You know, kinda like the "fat friend syndrome".

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  12. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Anytime YOUR LIFE is threatened you can use deadly force to protect

    yourself. This isn't the case here. The man wasn't threatened at all and

    could have just called the cops but he didn't. What if these ALLLEGED

    burglers were children of about 14 to 16 years old and they were just

    messing around? There are many things that this man did WRONG and he

    should be held accountable for his very stupid way of handling this

    situation. What if these ALLEGED burglers were your children and this

    happened to them, would YOU think he did the right thing then??? :shrug:
     
  13. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I guess that means you can shoot teenagers TPing your tree.
    Its just stuff.
    Life has more value than stuff.
     
  14. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Dont steal other peoples shit if you dont want to get shot. They got what they deserved, end of story.
     
  15. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    What if they didn't take anything? Seems nothing was found on them was

    there?
     
  16. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Did they break into the persons house? I have been robbed 4 times, it sucks and I have no sympathy for these men. I dont think they should have been killed, but thats the risk you run when you try and rob someone. I dont think the man who shot them should go to jail. I also dont know enough of the story to really make a sound judgement
     
  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I can make a very sound judgement, he was wrong in killing them.
     
  18. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    What if they were working for Dr House.
     
  19. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    They were wrong too. I dont think that they deserved to die, but I dont think that he should spend the rest of his life in jail for trying to stop some crimminals.
     
  20. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I never thought of that!

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  21. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    But he did more than try and stop them. He tried and when they ran, he shot them.
     
  22. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    I cant hear the audio on the clip, can you hear if the two men ran from the home owner or did they come at him, we certainly cant see, and the story doesnt tell us.
     
  23. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That's a tricky one. Those thieves could have caused harm to the occupants of the house, but then again, they could have been stupid kids that just needed to be scared straight. He's not a bad person, but you can't just shoot people for breaking the law.
     

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