Immortal Jellyfish!

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  1. w1z4rd Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1128732/Invasion-immortal-jellyfish-lives-ever.html

    I could just imagine hitting puberty every time after you have sex.

    So do you think there is a good secret locked in this little buggers DNA code?
     
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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't live forever. When it reverts back to it's juvenile state it ends up cloning itself.
     
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  5. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    It clones itself??? I didn't get that at all from the article. :bugeye:
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I know, but I know

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  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But they are very tasty!

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  9. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    The article did state that the organism can reproduce asexually at the polyp stage, but my understanding is that this is not the basis of its “immortality”. Rather, it’s the ability of the jellyfish cells to “transdifferentiate” (although I think a better term is “dedifferentiate”). This is an amazing property that is very rare in animal cells, although common in plant cells.


    There is a lot of scientific research on the mechanisms of aging. Findings like this jellyfish are interesting, but there is a big difference between the genetics of aging in ‘simple’ organisms versus ‘complex’ organisms. In Drosophila and C.elegans (two of the workhorse model organisms in genetics and developmental biology), it is easy to alter lifespan. Alteration of single genes can dramatically change lifespan in one direction or the other. However, when the same alterations are made in mice there is little or no effect. This reflects the considerably more complex genetic and epigenetic factors controlling aging in mammals.

    However, the ability to stimulate our own cells to dedifferentiate holds tremendous potential in the areas of regenerative therapies. This is evidenced by the recent IPS breakthrough. This is where scientists have managed to coax human adult differentiated cells (eg. a skin cell) to dedifferentiate into embryonic stem cell-like cells. It is hoped that these Induced Pluripotent Stem (IPS) cells will be a readily available patient-matched alternative to using embryonic stem cells in cellular therapies for degenerative diseases.

    Applying dedifferentiation to increasing human lifespan or reducing the effects of aging is a considerably more speculative and long-term goal!
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. Normally the polyp will bud off medusa's asexually. Medusas then mate and the offspring settles and grows out to be a polyp.. cycle starts again.
    But these medusas are able to revert back to polyp stage after they have mated.
    It's not real immortality as far as I'm concerned.
     
  11. Dr Mabuse Percipient Thaumaturgist Registered Senior Member

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    I'm glad it's not the Irukandji that's immortal and stuff.
     
  12. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    so if a human could do that, you wouldn't consider them immortal?
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No..
    If they would clone you, would the clone be you ?
     
  14. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    no
    what happens to the original jellyfish then?
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    After it has budded off all of its medusae I assume it dies off.
     
  16. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    But I can't do that!! if you can assume it dies, why can't you assume it keeps on living. If you don't know, its Schrödinger's jellyfish
     
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    ...:bravo:

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  18. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Lets just say it's an educated guess

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    It's rather improbable that the polyp survives. It produces medusae, so it seems rather nonsensical (evolutionary) for the polyp to re-revert back to a medusa also. Also, it doesn't have any means of feeding itself after the medusae have all budded off.
     
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