Zero Tolerance

shichimenshyo said:
So you favor a more authoritarian approach as opposed to a democratic system?
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Yes. I also favor it where I work (show me a company where you get to vote for the next manager) and in the Military. This says nothing for what I want in a government apparatus.

shichimenshyo said:
You could even set a rating system to pertain to only individual threads so that if you get enough poor ratings you will be locked out of a thread.
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I think that, that may be desirable but I'm not sure if the system can do that. I'll have to pass the word on to Plazma

shichimenshyo said:
I just dont trust a single person to remain objective in matters of politics or religion.
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It's a good thing that we have three mods in Politics and three more admins who supervise them.

shichimenshyo said:
I realize that other mods have voted for new mods, but doesnt that just create an elitist club and turn us non mods into a lower class of posters?
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You're allowing notions of democracy and society to creep into how a website is run. For example, employees in a company don't get to choose who becomes the next manager, do they? Again, it would become a popularity contest. You can't run a hierarchical structure from the bottom up. It won't work.

Again, this website isn't a democracy and there is no proof that it would be better run if Plazma and James had to worry about getting voted out of their position for the decisions they make. I liken this place to a private restaurant. I have an aunt who owns a German Club/Restaurant. Nobody gets to vote her in and out of her own property. She owns it. Yes, it's important that she have satisfied customers, but that doesn't mean that the mass dictates to her how the restaurant is run.

shichimenshyo said:
If the only people in a community who had any say about how the community is run are the leaders of that community, how can you ever hope to meet the needs of the larger community as a whole?
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Again, you're allowing your notions of how a real community outside this website is run to creep into your notions of how a website should be run. I have no say-so in how this website is really run. I can make suggestions, but at the end of the day, it's Plazma's call. There are communities out there where you get to vote on every matter. They exist. This place is not one of them. The opinions of this community are considered in the decision making process, but it is not the sole deciding factor for how it is governed.

Is it wrong to want that? No. But it's also a bit silly to join a private website, and then demand that its owner give up his private property for public rule. I've said this for a while now: Plazma has a distinct management style, one that incorporates the desires of the community, this is probably due--in part--to his personal style and because it suites the sub rosa purpose of this forum as a whole. I'm not saying that he--or his "boss"--is up to no good, but it's obvious that this community serves a scientific purpose. Part of this purpose is understanding human behavior. By joining this website, it's important for you to know that you do matter, but that it's still private property and that fact isn't about to change anytime soon.


~String
 
oh boo on all of you! you all need to say sorry and give eachother a big hug! haha
 
leopold99 said:
because now we can't call the posters/mods/admins jackasses, assholes, cunts, fuckheads, and a host of other choice terms.

asshole. :D
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In open governmnt you can. I wasn't talking about the OG forum. I was talking ONLY about the WE&P fora. The rules are enforced more harshely in order to keep out the idiots, trolls and flamethrowers (I avoid saying "flamers" because I want my fellow gays to feel welcome! ;)).

In the OG forum, however, you're free to speak your piece, usually with little fear of reprisals*.

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*Usually free of reprisals. I make no promises and you should still try to be on good behavior.
 
I couldn't even bear to read this thread in good faith. I got through about 4 posts. Just chiming in to say Ich Bin Ein Believer, und die Null-Toleranz unterstütze! But in my zeal for supporting Zero-T there's also (shudder)..

I also trust that if a moderator is banned in the crossfire- then after a day of fasting and flagellation they are fully reinstated and awarded a ribbon.
 
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superstring01 said:
To this end, warnings will no longer be issued for any of these things. Bans will be immediate. We will, of course, attempt to discern between a simple mistake and blatant actions. But the net result is the same: Zero Tolerance.
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Good idea, but the criteria defining offense is too broad and arbitrary.

Make accurately defined rules, and ban for a full week when they are broken.

No warnings.

Three bans and the member is gone for good.

Simple...clear...effective.
 
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superstring01 said:
I have an aunt who owns a German Club/Restaurant. Nobody gets to vote her in and out of her own property. She owns it. Yes, it's important that she have satisfied customers, but that doesn't mean that the mass dictates to her how the restaurant is run.

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I would imagine that customers are pretty important to your Aunt Sally aren't they? I heard Aunt Sally is finding it pretty tough to hold on to her Club/Restaurant because her lap dancers won't stop screaming: "This is not a fucking democracy! Aunt Sally is a tyrant!" at her customers whilst pissing into their sauerkraut.
 
sniffy said:
I would imagine that customers are pretty important to your Aunt Sally aren't they? I heard Aunt Sally is finding it pretty tough to hold on to her Club/Restaurant because her lap dancers won't stop screaming: "This is not a fucking democracy! Aunt Sally is a tyrant!" at her customers whilst pissing into their sauerkraut.
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Well, Aunt Maggie doesn't have to do that, because the customers don't come running in, demanding that she alter the fabric of her restaurant whilst demanding that she change the menu; such a request would well be met with, "Get the fuck out of my restaurant." Don't mess with Aunt Maggie.

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