You have no conception of freewill.

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Incompatibalist said:
Chimpkin, you are an idiot. Let me tell you what else I'm claiming... a complete conception of freewill is impossible. And I will explain how. But I do know... that of what composes the concept of freewill, is this "that a decision could have been otherwise of the complete accord of the entity and therefore without any influence other than it's own will"
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Your barking up the wrong tree butt breath . That insult against Chimpkin was uncalled for . In know way did Chimpkin make any accusations of disrespect to you . You are are idiot by calling Chimpkin an idiot . God what is the matter with people anyway
 
I already showed you verbally, I didn't show you visually though I can. And what conception are you referring to? Also you are using odd words... using existed in association with conception. Sure... the conception have have already existed... that is to say someone has already thought of what I have thought of. But do I care? No... because I found it all out on my own unlike you fools. Next.
 
Me-Ki-Gal said:
Your barking up the wrong tree butt breath . That insult against Chimpkin was uncalled for . In know way did Chimpkin make any accusations of disrespect to you . You are are idiot by calling Chimpkin an idiot . God what is the matter with people anyway
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Alright I apologize Chimpkin, it was uncalled for, but I don't apologize for the other times.
 
Incompatibalist said:
You guys are really disappointing me.
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You've provided your own proof of freewill be making a choice to either be disappointed or to not be. Freewill means having the ability to make your own judgements about anything and making your own choices as to what you consider meaningful or not to yourself. Being disappointed means you have considered many things in your mind before you made your random choice and randomness is also part of freewill.

I'm using this definition of free will to make my statement:
Merriam-Webster,

free will

Noun: The power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
 
cosmictraveler said:
You've provided your own proof of freewill be making a choice to either be disappointed or to not be. Freewill means having the ability to make your own judgements about anything and making your own choices as to what you consider meaningful or not to yourself. Being disappointed means you have considered many things in your mind before you made your random choice and randomness is also part of freewill.

I'm using this definition of free will to make my statement:
Merriam-Webster,

free will

Noun: The power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own discretion.
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You are an idiot. That is not a proof, or at least a logical proof. That is what you think an evidence. But it's not. From your own definition... "the power of acting without the constraint of necessity".

But what you must understand is that something necessitated these actions. You are a fool. An absolute fool. You obviously cannot concede reality.

The reality that if 'something could have been otherwise' something would have made it so, but the fact of the matter is that influence/condition/state which could have made it otherwise wasn't present at the time and so it didn't happen.
 
chimpkin said:
How can you say we have it or don't if you can't define what it is?

And don't insult me.

Reported.
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Because as I already pointed out I know what composes this concept. And if what composes this concept isn't reality than neither is freewill.

You are an idiot.
 
Incompatibalist said:
I already showed you verbally, I didn't show you visually though I can. And what conception are you referring to? Also you are using odd words... using existed in association with conception. Sure... the conception have have already existed... that is to say someone has already thought of what I have thought of. But do I care? No... because I found it all out on my own unlike you fools. Next.
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Tisk Tisk Tisk . It was Me . I thought it already. The question remains whether you really thought it on your own . I doubt that very much ? Seeing how you are a refection of the past . Go look in the mirror . What you see has already happened . You are late to the party so to speak . That is o.k. cause we are an excepting bunch around here even though we like a good argument . Even if the argument comes from the past
 
Why are you guys trolling the philosophy section? This is completely uncalled for. Philosophy is about argument... making claims and going on to prove them or stating why you make those claims Viz. why you think they are factuality. This is what I've done. I'm seeing none of this hear. Just people attempting to insult my intelligence when you don't even know what you are saying. You are just making claims and not supporting. Stating something is so, but not how it is so.

I will be the one reporting if this happens again.
 
Me-Ki-Gal said:
Tisk Tisk Tisk . It was Me . I thought it already. The question remains whether you really thought it on your own . I doubt that very much ? Seeing how you are a refection of the past . Go look in the mirror . What you see has already happened . You are late to the party so to speak . That is o.k. cause we are an excepting bunch around here even though we like a good argument . Even if the argument comes from the past
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What are you talking about? What have you thought of already? You aren't more intelligent than me you haven't even refuted anything I have stated you've just been... jumping like a jack ass attempting to insult me. It's really pathetic.
 
Alright let me be more precise when I said this. "Because as I already pointed out I know what composes this concept. And if what composes this concept isn't reality than neither is freewill."

"Because as I already pointed out I know some of what composes this concept. And if something that composes this concept isn't reality than neither is freewill"

Gosh I feel like I'm talking to a robot. Some person who just blurts stuff out. You haven't came to any conclusions in life they were all given to you. I feel so sorry you walk around here like you are intelligent and your word is fact.
 
Incompatibalist said:
You are an idiot.
You are a fool. An absolute fool.
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And you've been reported twice now. Would suggest you put the fire out and play nice.

The reality that if 'something could have been otherwise' something would have made it so, but the fact of the matter is that influence/condition/state which could have made it otherwise wasn't present at the time and so it didn't happen.
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Well, then by your definition, we have no free will.

I'm more inclined to buy the Mirriam-Webster version rather than your specialized one, since as much as anything is real in this reality I appear to make a choice between alternatives.
That choice is obviously not uninfluenced. But I do give every appearance of making it.

If we have no free will, as you say, how would that relate to moral culpability?
That's what I'd like to know.
Your version of reality seems to absolve us of all responsibility, since by definition we have no ability to respond.
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chimpkin said:
Incompatibalist said:
You are an idiot.
And you've been reported twice now. Would suggest you put the fire out and play nice.



Well, then by your definition, we have no free will.

I'm more inclined to buy the Mirriam-Webster version rather than your specialized one, since as much as anything is real in this reality I appear to make a choice between alternatives.
That choice is obviously not uninfluenced. But I do give every appearance of making it.

If we have no free will, as you say, how would that relate to moral culpability?
That's what I'd like to know.
Your version of reality seems to absolve us of all responsibility, since by definition we have no ability to respond.
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You are a fool an absolute fool, that is the same version I am using. You retard. As shown in post 25. Durr.
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Incompatibalist said:
Anyone with any idea of argumentation who disagreed with me would have approached this properly.
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So go where they specialize in philosophy then. If you step outside your own subculture, don't be surprised when other people play by other rules.
This is more of a general-interest and popular-science forum.
 
In that case, I have wasted my time trying to educate you guys.

I have showed you using the merriam websters definition of freewill that it doesn't exist.
You said I don't know concept or understand it when I have broken it down to its very prefix and suffix and went beyond that and associated it with logic and how we understand.

None of you obviously got any of this. I really have wasted my time. Fantastic. Thank you for pointing that out though. I guess I had too much hope for this forum.
 
You are a fool an absolute fool, that is the same version I am using. You retard. As shown in post 25. Durr.
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If we can make a choice between alternatives, and could have made a different one, then we did choose.

And you've been reported three times now.

Something else, since when does calling someone names qualify as "proper argumentation?" More like the pisspoor arguing tactic of an inferior person.

Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
 
Oh god you are still coming back for more? You couldn't have made a different decision. Because there were factors present which made it so you made the decision. The factors that could have made it otherwise weren't present and so you didn't make a different decision.

Simply because there are alternatives from which to choose doesn't mean you have freewill.. because againt there are factors governing your decision and this my friend goes against the merriem websters definition of freewill.

You are an idiot. Come back again and I will report you again for trolling.
 
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